Author Topic: Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN - no permit - Whitworth Close car park, Gosport  (Read 45 times)

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Received this PCN stating that the car was parked for 19 hours, when in fact the vehicle was only there for a matter of minutes. The photo that they submitted as 'evidence' clearly shows that the vehicle was still moving. I have no idea where they got the 19 hours from!

There doesn't seem to be many options in way of appealing. Can someone point me in the right direction please?

Thanks!

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Is this a “double dip”, that’s to say did you visit 19 hours later but they missed your earlier exit?

Well over the 14 days to claim against the keeper.
However, they make no mention of the PoFA to claim.

Well over the 14 days to claim against the keeper.
However, they make no mention of the PoFA to claim.

The issue date on the PCN is only 21st May so is still within the 14 days for reduced payment, and 28 days for appeal.

I cannot access either image?

I cannot access either image?
Not just you, nor can I.
“Permissions” need to be set appropriately I think.

I cannot access either image?

Ah apologies! Have changed the access so you should be able to view now

Is this a “double dip”, that’s to say did you visit 19 hours later but they missed your earlier exit?

Ah yes I think this might be what's happened! The driver did return the next day, but still didn't park there. I guess this should be easy enough to explain? There doesn't seem to be much opportunity to explain yourself when you try to appeal.

I would personally refer them to https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/Sector%20Code%20Templates/sectorsingleCodeofPracticeVersion1.1130426-2.pdf and tell them I won’t be paying, per
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NOTE 1: The manual quality control check for remote ANPR and CCTV systems is
particularly important for detecting issues such as “double dipping”, where image camera
systems might have failed to accurately record each instance when a vehicle enters and
leaves controlled land, and for checking images that might have been taken other than by
a trained parking attendant (see Clause 15). The manual check might also reveal where
“tailgating” – vehicles passing a camera close together – is a problem, suggesting
relocation of the camera might be necessary.
It’s their incompetence and lack of a proper quality control check which has led to this.
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