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Problem with motorcycle garage/dealership, advice needed.
« on: March 31, 2025, 09:08:49 am »
Hi, I recently took my bike to a local Yamaha dealer for a safety recall.  The recall was for a new throttle position sensor to be fitted, and for an ECU update to calibrate it.

The dealership fitted the sensor, but couldn't update the ECU.  They have asked if the bike has been remapped, I said it hasn't.  I got the bike on 650 miles from a Honda dealer, and on the service history it had the running in service at 502 miles, along with a printout from a previous Yamaha dealer showing diagnostic info. 

So I know they were able to connect to the bike at 502 miles, and it would be very strange for someone to pay for a remap, then sell the bike after less than 150 miles.  Honda spoke to the previous owner and they said the bike was not remapped.

My local Yamaha dealer is trying to wriggle out of helping me, saying that the only reason they couldn't connect is if the bike has been remapped.  They have also marked the job as complete on my service history, when they have clearly not completed the job as they couldn't connect to the bike.

Where do I stand here?  I am asking them to send the ECU to Yamaha at the very least, to check why they cannot access it.  I want to claim under my Yamaha warranty as I still have a year left, but they are saying Yamaha won't cover it if the ECU has been remapped.  There is no proof that it has, and with the evidence it seems extremely unlikely.

Thoughts?

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Re: Problem with motorcycle garage/dealership, advice needed.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2025, 11:33:16 am »
it would be very strange for someone to pay for a remap, then sell the bike after less than 150 miles. 
Is it possible for someone to remap, realise something's wrong with the bike as a result, and then sell it on saying 'nope, never been remapped, honest guv'?

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Re: Problem with motorcycle garage/dealership, advice needed.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2025, 11:47:14 am »
A competent technician can easily remap an ECU back to default; the ECU can be reset with the software you plug in. The software can also inspect the ECU contents to see what is wrong or has been changed. I'd suggest you find a Yamaha dealer who knows what they are doing.

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Re: Problem with motorcycle garage/dealership, advice needed.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2025, 12:19:00 pm »
it would be very strange for someone to pay for a remap, then sell the bike after less than 150 miles. 
Is it possible for someone to remap, realise something's wrong with the bike as a result, and then sell it on saying 'nope, never been remapped, honest guv'?

I agree, it's possible that someone has remapped it, however the previous customer would have nothing to gain by lying, and there was nothing wrong with the bike.  It was serviced at 502 miles and connected fine to that dealer's system. I received it on 650 miles, and the bike was perfect. So there really is no evidence that it's had a remap, the bike is completely standard with no signs of tampering.

The only reason it has gone in for a recall is because Yamaha have issued one for all bikes of this model.  So it's just strange that it won't connect.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2025, 12:20:35 pm »
A competent technician can easily remap an ECU back to default; the ECU can be reset with the software you plug in. The software can also inspect the ECU contents to see what is wrong or has been changed. I'd suggest you find a Yamaha dealer who knows what they are doing.

I might have to, I do suspect that this dealership doesn't know what they are doing.  Although they have marked the work as complete, which is annoying as it's a free recall, whereas I may have to pay if I take it elsewhere.  It's left me in a tough spot with no answers.

I also don't really want to ride the bike, as it has an uncalibrated TPS sensor on it, not good on a bike with sophisticated electronics.

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Re: Problem with motorcycle garage/dealership, advice needed.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2025, 06:48:04 pm »
As they have clearly not done the work competently, ask them to put the bike back as it was, unflag the recall and you can take it somewhere else.