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gge12

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Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« on: February 20, 2025, 01:35:50 pm »
Last night someone drove in to the back of our car whilst my wife was waiting at a roundabout. They exchanged details at the scene and fortunately no one was injured but our car sustained significant damage to the rear. This morning we reported this to our insurers who offered a hire car and full repairs - though we hadn't heard from the other driver despite calling a number of times we were informed she had admitted full liability for the crash. We also have dash cam footage to prove this.

Shortly after coming of the phone with our insurers, the other driver's insurers called and offered to repair the car, provide a hire car but also to pay us £500 to go with them. They then sent a letter stating that their driver was at fault and reiterated the aformentioned offer. Clearly they know that this will save them significant money in the long run. I am a bit dubious though because we are not their customer and we have little recourse going forward if something goes wrong. On the other hand, it is a tempting offer considering there were no injuries involved, the other driver admitted fault which means it isn't likely to go to court in the future. Any thoughts or advice please as both firms are calling us constantly and we are completely confused!?

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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2025, 07:48:28 pm »
Basically, as you are presumably already aware, insurance companies are basically crooks who rip each other off with absurdly inflated hire costs, etc. And pass on the costs to their customers.

Your insurance company do not work for you. They work for themselves. Unless you are impecunious and the liable party's insurers are being difficult, going through your own insurers only benefits them. Potentially, you could be stuck with the crooked hire car costs if the other party's insurers refuse to pay - although I would love to see an insurer try to sue their own client for their inflated costs in such circumstances.

The liable party's insurers have a vested interest in controlling the costs and keeping you on-side. Your own insurer has a vested interest in using you as a patsy to rip off the liable party's insurer, and potentially throwing you under the bus for their actions.

edit: Some years ago, a driver insured with LV went into the back of my 11 year old car at a pedestrian crossing. Within an hour, LV were on the phone to me offering to sort everything out (although they stopped short of offering me a kickback). They asked what my requirements for a hire car were - and as I only needed to commute 15 miles each way, I said that anything would do. After all, they didn't make bad cars any more, and a new car would be far nicer than my old car. Or so I thought. They arranged for me to collect a 1.4i Corsa from a national car hire place 200 yards from my house. I did not understand the term "malicious compliance" until I drove that unmitigated piece of s**t. Arguably more Vauxhall's fault than LV's, but a cautionary tale nonetheless.
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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2025, 04:26:53 pm »
Some years ago, I was front-ended (reversed into) as I was dropping my son off at nursery. Other driver admitted fault at the time and we exchanged details. By the time I had subsequently driven to the station, got the train to London, and was on the bus to my destination (i.e. less than an hour and a half, and not even 9am), their insurance called to start making arrangements for repair. It all went smoothly, and I only had to tell my own insurers as a matter of courtesy (and policy requirement). The other party was insured by Admiral. I guess it's a case of whether you trust the other party's insurance company to do the right thing.

(P.S. I'd only just got my car back after 6 weeks off the road for repairs after having been sideswiped in queueing traffic by a foreign HGV. Two no fault collisions in a short time like that prompted me to get a dashcam in case of future disputes. Since then, no further incidents.)
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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2025, 11:41:40 pm »
The only downside I understand of dealing direct with the third party insurer, is that if you need to make a complaint (for instance, if the repair is not satisfactory), you may not be able to take it to the insurance ombudsman as you are not the customer of the third party insurer.

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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2025, 05:16:35 pm »
Andy Foster has pointed out some pitfalls a similar incident happened to a number of years ago when a person collided with my parked car. When I reported it to my insurance company within a few hours I had car management company well known by many offering me a car and to cut a long story short it was really car hire which was taken out in my name hidden amongst the T&C was that there was a possibility that if they could not claim the money back I could be held liable. There are a load of hoops such as need for a car your financial circumstances etc.
The car hire came to almost £6000 for approximately a month hire. I ended up in court with all bank statements etc. So I assisted my insurance company and did not have to pay for any losses incurred.

Upon reflection I would have taken the third party vehicle the accident damage repair was not on the table
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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2025, 09:18:11 am »
My original advice based on a degree of knowledge in this area appears to have been removed for some reason, so I'll try again. Always go through your own insurer, not the third party's. There are several very good reasons for this I enumerated initially, but one worth noting is that you have paid your insurer to do this work for you.

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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2025, 04:53:33 pm »
You will always have to engages with your insurance and look at their advice. If they advise going through an accident management company be aware of what has been said in previous posts.

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Re: Insurance - third party capture following car collision
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2025, 06:35:57 pm »
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You will always have to engages with your insurance and look at their advice. If they advise going through an accident management company be aware of what has been said in previous posts.

Only as far as you're contracted to do so, i.e. informing them of an accident. You absolutely do not have to claim through them, but if you don't, there are benefits and risks.