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Re: Bristol council and ULEZ
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You might want to add a little more info if you want people to lick on such a convoluted link
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A shorter link to the Daily Mail article is
Bristol's Ulez scheme made £31million from drivers even though every fine had incorrect wording - and council chiefs refuse to give the money back | Daily Mail Online
Bristol City Council
dailymail.co.uk


However, this article appears to be based on the following, which give a much fuller account of Bristol's failings re its ULEZ and the efforts of one mr.John Lyon to expose them.

Bristol's CAZ-buster unveiled as he continues to win drivers' appeals
John Lyon, a driver from Saltford, currently has a 100 per cent record on overturning penalty charge notices
Bristol Live · bristolpost.co.uk


which also contains this relevant quote
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“Then, when we go to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal to appeal again, the council waits until the penultimate day of the fortnight they have to respond, and on the penultimate day they make an offer which waives the fine but asks the driver to pay the initial £9 charge,” said Mr Lyon.
“They do this to make it so the stats show that they’ve technically ‘won’ that challenge, as they did get the CAZ charge paid. But if that offer is declined, the next day they will withdraw the entire penalty and the charge, with about ten hours to go. That means the Traffic Penalty Tribunal never gets to actually assess the points made in the challenges. The council is shying away from having that assessment done and a judgement made,” he added.

John Lyon himself has posts relevant to challenging Bristol ULEZ at
https://www.facebook.com/groups/287105966864801/user/100001125898045/


Other accounts are at

https://www.facebook.com/groups/287105966864801


and

Driver overturns 12 Bristol Clear Air Zone fines - BBC News
bbc.co.uk

Bristol Clean Air Zone: Drivers win more than half of appeals - BBC News
bbc.co.uk
« Last Edit: January 24, 2024, 09:50:47 am by John U.K. »
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Re: Bristol council and ULEZ
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Quote from: andy_foster on January 23, 2024, 09:46:33 pm
You might want to add a little more info if you want people to lick on such a convoluted link
Andy, you know I have missing links!
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@Incandescent!

I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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