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Private parking tickets / Re: Times parking Gatwick APPEALED
« Last post by tincombe on Yesterday at 12:32:29 pm »Pl don't describe, post the documents required. Read the guide on how to do this. Do not attempt to transpose documents.
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Private parking tickets / Re: Parking Eye / DCB Legal Court Claim – Charge Was Supposedly Cancelled
« Last post by tincombe on Yesterday at 12:29:54 pm »just add those 2 points to my defence?
IMO, they are your defence, or at least the main part!
Let's be clear: their claim is against you (read the Claim Form) as either:
Driver, or
Keeper.
You are NEITHER. That's it, they have fallen at the first hurdle.
You were not the driver. They have no evidence that you were, but if pressed on the matter you could state truthfully that the vehicle was driven by your wife, but I wouldn't volunteer this.
You were not the keeper either. The keeper is a legal concept and is presumed to be the registered keeper. They have no evidence that you were the keeper, because you weren't, you were the hirer under a lease agreement. The ONLY way in which they could hold you liable as hirer* is if ss13 and 14 of Sch 4 to PoFA have been complied with: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
They haven't.
You have never been served with a Notice to Hirer and you have not been provided with the mandatory documents which would enable you to examine the creditor's claim.
IMO, everything else is secondary.
IMO, they are your defence, or at least the main part!
Let's be clear: their claim is against you (read the Claim Form) as either:
Driver, or
Keeper.
You are NEITHER. That's it, they have fallen at the first hurdle.
You were not the driver. They have no evidence that you were, but if pressed on the matter you could state truthfully that the vehicle was driven by your wife, but I wouldn't volunteer this.
You were not the keeper either. The keeper is a legal concept and is presumed to be the registered keeper. They have no evidence that you were the keeper, because you weren't, you were the hirer under a lease agreement. The ONLY way in which they could hold you liable as hirer* is if ss13 and 14 of Sch 4 to PoFA have been complied with: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2012/9/schedule/4
They haven't.
You have never been served with a Notice to Hirer and you have not been provided with the mandatory documents which would enable you to examine the creditor's claim.
IMO, everything else is secondary.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Medway- Chatham High Stret - CC01- Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours
« Last post by JOJO1209 on Yesterday at 12:00:39 pm »READ their summary.That's absolutely correct. Bang on
First para. Lines 14-17 etc.
They claim that a NO STOPPING SIGN creates a No Waiting AND no loading restriction.
IN LAW IT CANNOT.
That's it, IMO.
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Private parking tickets / Re: PRIVATE PARKING CHARGE
« Last post by jfollows on Yesterday at 12:00:14 pm »Also, PoFA 8(2) e is not there, no invitation to the keeper to pay.8(2)(e) only applies to a NtK issued after a Notice to Driver placed on the car. It’s probably 9(2)(e) that is not complied with.
Possible "frustration of contract".
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Medway- Chatham High Stret - CC01- Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours
« Last post by JOJO1209 on Yesterday at 11:52:43 am »Thank you so much.
I also have a huge update.
I have literally just received a phone call from someone at the TPT informing me that Medway Council called to say they cannot make it to the hearing today and have asked for the hearing to be rescheduled. I was told I will be informed of a new date soon.This is such an incredible relief and an absolute answer to my prayers. It gives me the much-needed time to catch my breath and properly prepare. Now that the immediate pressure is off and I have a bit more time, what should my next steps be.
Are there any other points that you spotted? Any further advice or help on how to structure this defense for the new date would be highly appreciated.
Thank you all again!
I also have a huge update.
I have literally just received a phone call from someone at the TPT informing me that Medway Council called to say they cannot make it to the hearing today and have asked for the hearing to be rescheduled. I was told I will be informed of a new date soon.This is such an incredible relief and an absolute answer to my prayers. It gives me the much-needed time to catch my breath and properly prepare. Now that the immediate pressure is off and I have a bit more time, what should my next steps be.
Are there any other points that you spotted? Any further advice or help on how to structure this defense for the new date would be highly appreciated.
Thank you all again!
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Private parking tickets / Re: Times parking Gatwick APPEALED
« Last post by Mutimutant on Yesterday at 11:49:19 am »Basically, I received a PCN some time ago and appealed it, stating that I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. At no point did I identify or indicate who the driver was at the time of the alleged parking incident.
They subsequently responded requesting a photograph of my driving licence in order to establish whether I was the driver. I replied explaining that I am not legally required to provide them with this information and that I had not identified the driver.
I have used a template from Reddit that was found on this forum to appeal
They subsequently responded requesting a photograph of my driving licence in order to establish whether I was the driver. I replied explaining that I am not legally required to provide them with this information and that I had not identified the driver.
I have used a template from Reddit that was found on this forum to appeal
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Private parking tickets / Re: Times parking Gatwick APPEALED
« Last post by jfollows on Yesterday at 11:35:28 am »Please read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ carefully and post the documents that it asks for.
You're not "bound" to pay anything and "Elliot v Loake" is an invalid point they make, which you'd find if you searched this forum, but you really need to give us some background here as well as copies of documents.
You should appeal to the IAS knowing that it costs the parking company something like £23, even though it’s likely that the IAS will reject your appeal. I sugest you post a draft appeal here for comment.
It is likely you will receive a county court claim to which you will need to file a defence, and again by searching the forum you will see that the majority of similar claims are discontinued if properly defended. We can provide advice on the defence in due course.
It’s unlikely you will need to pay anything but it will take several months to work through the process until the case is discontinued, and you need to stay on top of the process until it is.
You're not "bound" to pay anything and "Elliot v Loake" is an invalid point they make, which you'd find if you searched this forum, but you really need to give us some background here as well as copies of documents.
You should appeal to the IAS knowing that it costs the parking company something like £23, even though it’s likely that the IAS will reject your appeal. I sugest you post a draft appeal here for comment.
It is likely you will receive a county court claim to which you will need to file a defence, and again by searching the forum you will see that the majority of similar claims are discontinued if properly defended. We can provide advice on the defence in due course.
It’s unlikely you will need to pay anything but it will take several months to work through the process until the case is discontinued, and you need to stay on top of the process until it is.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Medway - 51J - No Entry Restriction
« Last post by darreninthenet on Yesterday at 11:30:19 am »5) Procedural impropriety by the Local Authority - the Notice Of Rejection fails to specify proper details on appealing to the TPT. The Local Authority cannot discharge this duty by referring a person to a third parties general website.
Too vague: it's a conclusion. The adjudicator isn't going to compare the NOR with the legislation, that's your job: specify exactly where the NOR is defective.
Is this any better?
5) Procedural impropriety by the Local Authority - the Notice Of Rejection fails to specify proper details on appealing to the TPT. The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022 s.6(a)(iii) clearly states “If the enforcement authority does not accept the representations, its decision notice must describe the form and manner in which an appeal to an adjudicator must be made." The Local Authority has attempted discharge this duty by referring a person to a third parties general website (and not even a specific page) which the legislation does not permit it to do.
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Private parking tickets / Times parking Gatwick APPEALED
« Last post by Mutimutant on Yesterday at 11:26:55 am »So I received this today after appealing online, am I bound to pay this now?
Issue date: 15/07/2026
Thank you for your appeal received on 13/08/2026 regarding the above detailed Parking Charge, we have reviewed your case and considered the comments you have made. Your appeal has also been considered in conjunction with the evidence gathered at the time of the contravention. Our records show the notice was correctly issued as your vehicle was in breach of the Terms and Conditions.
As this charge is not being pursued under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, we are not relying on the statutory keeper liability provisions in Schedule 4, so its specific conditions do not need to be met. In the absence of driver details, we rely on the principles considered in Elliott v Loake (1982) when assessing, on the balance of probabilities, who was driving.
We are therefore unable to cancel the Parking Charge as it was issued correctly. We have now extended the discounted payment period by a further 14 days to allow you time to pay the discounted settlement amount. Please now make payment of £60 to reach us by 11/09/2026 or £100 to reach us by 25/09/2026. We must advise you that once the discounted settlement rate passes it will not be offered again.
Payment can also be made using a debit or credit card on our website; https://gatwick.zatappeal.com OR you can also pay using our Automated Payment Line: 03330230907
You have reached the end of our internal appeals procedure, Times24 UK Limited will not assess further appeals in relation to this matter.
However, in line with our Accredited Trade Association (ATA) membership we are required to provide you with an Independent Appeals Service. If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) provided by International Parking Community (IPC).
If you choose to appeal to the IAS you will lose the ability to pay the charge at the reduced rate and the full amount will apply.
In order to appeal, you will need your Parking Charge number and your Vehicle Registration, which can be found within this letter. Appeals must be submitted to the IAS within 28 days of the date of this letter/email. Please visit www.theias.org for full details.
For free advice regarding your parking charge, including advice on appealing, please visit: www.247advice.co.uk
Issue date: 15/07/2026
Thank you for your appeal received on 13/08/2026 regarding the above detailed Parking Charge, we have reviewed your case and considered the comments you have made. Your appeal has also been considered in conjunction with the evidence gathered at the time of the contravention. Our records show the notice was correctly issued as your vehicle was in breach of the Terms and Conditions.
As this charge is not being pursued under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, we are not relying on the statutory keeper liability provisions in Schedule 4, so its specific conditions do not need to be met. In the absence of driver details, we rely on the principles considered in Elliott v Loake (1982) when assessing, on the balance of probabilities, who was driving.
We are therefore unable to cancel the Parking Charge as it was issued correctly. We have now extended the discounted payment period by a further 14 days to allow you time to pay the discounted settlement amount. Please now make payment of £60 to reach us by 11/09/2026 or £100 to reach us by 25/09/2026. We must advise you that once the discounted settlement rate passes it will not be offered again.
Payment can also be made using a debit or credit card on our website; https://gatwick.zatappeal.com OR you can also pay using our Automated Payment Line: 03330230907
You have reached the end of our internal appeals procedure, Times24 UK Limited will not assess further appeals in relation to this matter.
However, in line with our Accredited Trade Association (ATA) membership we are required to provide you with an Independent Appeals Service. If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) provided by International Parking Community (IPC).
If you choose to appeal to the IAS you will lose the ability to pay the charge at the reduced rate and the full amount will apply.
In order to appeal, you will need your Parking Charge number and your Vehicle Registration, which can be found within this letter. Appeals must be submitted to the IAS within 28 days of the date of this letter/email. Please visit www.theias.org for full details.
For free advice regarding your parking charge, including advice on appealing, please visit: www.247advice.co.uk
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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro Car Park PCN
« Last post by Hiram on Yesterday at 11:25:42 am »I didn't include the driver's name. I appealed through their website so I don't have the actual letter. But it was in the grounds that the driver had only gone over by 15 mins