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'and have uploaded extra evidence'.

May we see pl. I've read elsewhere what I think is a good maxim: do not take weight of evidence literally!

The rapier of key, decisive points, not War and Peace which obscures the essentials IMO.

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It's your use of terms which might confuse them.

You are claiming a statutory defence (not mitigation) of: I was not the owner at the time of the contraventions. TPT's response to you isn't helpful because who legally owns the vehicle is not determinative, the issue is 'by whom is the vehicle kept'.


I suggest something along these lines:
As the adjudicator will know, 'owner' is the person by whom a vehicle is kept and this is presumed to be the registered keeper unless the contrary can be proved.

On ***, I neither legally owned the vehicle nor was it kept by me as I transferred title to **** by way of an arm's length bona fide sale on *** for the sum of *****. *****(insert the person or company to whom you sold the vehicle) took possession of the vehicle on **** and I relinquished my role as keeper at that time.

That ****(the person) has accrued numerous penalty charges and private parking charges(some of which have been cancelled on presentation of exactly the defence set out here) was beyond my control and, I submit, something for which I may not be held liable. I apologise for my naivete in not notifying DVLA to remove my name from the registered keepers' list, I was misled by the buyer on this but I have now taken my name off the register.

My attached evidence comprises:

Bank statement;
Bill of Sale;
Notification to DVLA of cancelled VED;
Correspondence with insurance company;
Personal details of the person to whom you sold the vehicle.
DVLA correspondence;

....and?

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You make representations by one of the methods stated on the back. I suggest you go online to hounslow.gov.uk/parking and do it TODAY because this is day 28(counting starts on the day of the PCN, therefore 13 May was day 1).

Sorry, but I cannot see the council cancelling because it's your* car and you cannot transfer liability to the towing company within parking legislation. You could pursue them separately if you have to pay the penalty, but this would be another matter.

The photos show the car with 2 wheels on the footway and on DYL with a loading restriction. Ali's Autos sits in a sea of such restrictions which surely you knew? It could have been towed again, but this time to the pound.

But at least make reps e.g. not left with your consent but by recovery company ABC etc. Expand as necessary. 
*- are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?

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OP, the fundamental point is this which underpins all civil enforcement:

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/schedule/7

See para. 3(2)(b)(i): the authority claim you breached the provisions of a traffic order whereby they were empowered to issue a PCN.

But they have no evidence to this effect and therefore because the adjudication system is creaking and an adjudicator won't adjourn for the authority to get its act together they should allow the appeal.

Signs are irrelevant because their role is to convey via traffic signs, the meaning of which a driver is presumed to know by virtue of holding a licence, provisions in an order.

No order in evidence = no case.

And as I remember, the TTO merely amended a principal order(and it's this amendment which they claim was breached) therefore both should be in evidence. But instead you appear to have neither.


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As I posted earlier, IMO you do not need anything more than the statutory exemption at this stage.

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Not at this stage. It's always worthwhile making reps within the 14-day period which ends on 18 June.

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IMO, you just need what you've drafted to Statutory Exemption.

2 is unnecessary and 3 is easily dealt with in 1 by the suitable addition of 'see attachments'

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Does that make any difference?

To whom and for what? Certainly not the authority and definitely not any excuse for not contacting the respondent.

Send the email pl

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OP, IMO the legal test is whether and how the CPZ entry signs you passed carried clear information that the 'next match day was 6 June'.

IMO, it does not lie with motorists to second-guess this information by researching alternative sources. If both signs refer to match days and the CPZ sign makes clear that 6 June was such a day then IMO you would struggle at adjudication.

But it's up to the council to prove its case and by the same standard i.e. to show(on the balance of probabilities) that the sign you passed conveyed matchday info clearly and was there to be read.

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Yes, I am prepared to do it on principle

I'm struggling to see this. You parked on an unmarked length of highway less than 1/2 mile from the Etihaad Stadium and adjacent to a tram stop and yet you didn't expect it to be subject to parking controls?

Doesn't happen, I'm afraid.

Also, earlier in the thread you were happy to pay the discount.

But you are where you are. Would you please post their reply(ies)(your transposed version omits important details like date and offer to accept the lower payment). As per others, it's probable that the discount would be re-offered

IMO, the sign is perfectly clear, compliant with regs as regards content and placed correctly*.

*- if the zone has an entrance at this point.

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Don't 'work on an appeal' just register. At this stage this is all you need to do.

10 minutes' work, not War and Peace.


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RK is the driver and car is not leased, was not planning to disclose the driver in any appeals.

It's owner(RK) liability and therefore as the driver was the RK, the driver is known. In any event, this can be useful at adjudication because the appellant would therefore have first-hand knowledge.

But in truth, if you were there 5 minutes then I can't see a defence against the contravention.

No photos may just be a timing issue regarding uploading and the intervening weekend.

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Dear Sir,
PCN *********

On ***, I paid the authority £*** for the release of my car which had been seized by **** pursuant to a warrant of control(see enclosed receipt).

On 25 February 2026 the court granted ***** permission to submit a Statutory Declaration Out of Time and by Order(copy enclosed) revoked the Order for Recovery and directed the authority to cancel the Charge Certificate. The authority was therefore required to refund £*** in a timely manner.

My bank details are as follows and I expect payment within 14 days:

*********

Regards,

*******

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Doesn't the statutory exemption only apply for a dropped kerb in front of a driveway?

As per stamfordman, NO.

86Prohibition of parking at dropped footways etc.
(1)In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge where—

(a)the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet the level of the carriageway for the purpose of—

(i)assisting pedestrians crossing the carriageway,

(ii)assisting cyclists entering or leaving the carriageway, or

(iii)assisting vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway across the footway, cycle track or verge; OR

(b)the carriageway has, for a purpose within paragraph (a)(i) to (iii), been raised to meet the level of the footway, cycle track or verge.

This is subject to the following exceptions.

...
3)The second exception is where the vehicle is parked outside residential premises by or with the consent (but not consent given for reward) of the occupier of the premises.

This exception does not apply in the case of a shared driveway.


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Do you have examples of their evidence e.g. actual signs which formed the contract whose breach is the basis of their claim etc?

Your first posts now show 'attachment does not exist'.

In any event, you are defending their 'claim' and IMO would do well to see this in its fullest sense i.e. it's not just about whether and under what circumstances there might have been a breach.

As I understand it, their claim is for £279.92 and you do not have the option of choosing to pay part. So, what does their claim comprise?

Parking charge of £100 plus 'debt recovery' costs of £70 and then an unspecified sum of £24.92 which represents what, interest at the rate of ** from when, pre or post the POPLA decision, their LoC, service of the claim form? Who knows? Pursuit of the charge is in their court and IMO there's no reason to claim 'interest' (if at all) until after the court claim is served. Process delays are theirs, not yours.

So, even if there was a basis for £100, which you dispute, then what's the justification for the rest? Fertile ground for considering what you might include in a defence against the 'claim' I would have thought.

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