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@correcthaunt for PN76007402 obviously the council never received your representations. You send a representation by post, that was obviously a mistake: anything you send by post gets scanned into the computer and the paper copy is immediately shredded, so it's a massive waste of time. If you make a representation online it goes directly into the council computer, so as well as being immediate, cheaper and more environmentally friendly you avoid the risk of postal issue. You now for next time. For now, all you can do is wait for the debt to be registered.

For this PCN, follows the process outlined here: https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-l-1805/


For PN62628875, PN62645400, PN62647643, there's nothing you can do aside from waiting for the debt to be registered with TEC. Follow the process outlined here: https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/

By law statutory declarations can be done at either the County Court or the Magistrates' Court, but the County Court will be easier because they do it all the time, the staff at the Magistrates' Court might have no idea how the process works so it's not really worth the hassle of having to deal with them. As an alternative, any high street solicitor will normally do this for around £10 / £15.

Once you've made the statutory declarations let me know, but do not submit them before the debt is registered with TEC or they'll just get rejected.

Yes, you wait for an LoC. Ignore all debt collection correspondence. It is to be ignored. We don't need to know about it.

An LoC or the actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC s what we need to know about.

@correcthaunt firstly what a mess, if you'd appealed everything with our help we could have probably got everything cancelled, you know for next time.

So here are your follow-up actions:

1) Stop all communication with the London Borough of Newham. The more you contact them asking for a resolution, the more they mess things up and the more work we have untangling everything. Even if the council tries to help, they are incompetent and will typically make things worse. Where you need to contact them for a specific PCN, I have said so explicitly below.

2) You posted PCNs PN74748188 and PN75748213 here: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/newham-code-52m-failing-to-comply-with-a-prohibition-on-certain-types-of-vehicle/ and I told you to follow the statutory process to get them reset, instead you accepted the council's "offer" of a discretionary reset which they would have been obliged to give you anyway. Basically you've been mugged, but as I said you know for next time.

3) For PCN PN76007402, there are no "tribunal letters" and if you do nothing you will end up with an Order for Recovery. That is not the end of the world, but it's far better to find out if there is a Notice of Rejection. So, for this particular PCN, make a subject access request to InformationRightsTeam@newham.gov.uk asking for a copy of the Notice of Rejection issued for this PCN to be emailed to you, you will need to provide proof of ID and proof of address as per the lists provided here: https://www.newham.gov.uk/contact-information/requesting-personal-information

If it turns out a Notice of Rejection does exist (which it almost certainly does) then it will have been lost in the post, but that doesn't matter as an appeal can still be filed, I can also represent you at the tribunal, the location in question is reasonably straightforward to win on appeal.

4) PN62628875, PN62645400, PN62647643: Two things here: firstly make a separate Subject Access Request to InformationRightsTeam@newham.gov.uk asking for a copy of all information held in respect of these PCNs (you don't want it mixed up with the request for PN76007402). Secondly do not send any other communication to the council about these PCNs, in particular do not "appeal" or make representations against them, and do not ask them to "reset" them to £65 or to any other amount, at the moment you're just on an information gathering exercise.

For these three PCNs even though you have not received a charge certificate we know one has been issued, therefore this time please listen to me and follow the process described here: https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-local-autho/

We can almost certainly get these three PCNs cancelled altogether, so if were to accept a "generous offer" from the council to close these for £65 each, again you would just be getting mugged.

Sorry, but it's not completely clear - how many PCNs are outstanding, (i.e not paid). It would be better if you could list them with date of PCN, and for each one, say what stage it is at.

For PCNs at the Charge Certificate stage, for which you have submitted representations, you have to now wait for the Order for Recovery for each of those, and then submit a Statutory Declaration to the TEC that you made representations, but received no Notice of Rejection of Reps. TEC will then cancel the OfRs and the CCs and the matter then reverts to the PCN stage.

After the end date for payment of the CCs, you need to be proactive, and to check the amount outstanding on the Newham website. When it goes up by £10 to £205, the debt has been registered and you can submit your SD. You don't even have to wait for the Order for Recovery to arrive, because you can download the form from the EC website.

Your case does seem to be a bit of a Dog's Breakfast, and the usual incompetence and stupidity of Newham is on display. Just remember that Newham do not re-offer the discount after rejecting representations, making it a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals where you are sure to win, because these signs have been declared as non-compliant by at least one adjudicator.

Does the Money Claim Online (MCOL) portal also show the AoS and defence submission dates?