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I made my representations yesterday evening, using both points advised by @mrmustard.
When I submitted it, a message was displayed saying "Unfortunately, we have been unable to send a copy of your challenge by email. Your challenge has been logged and will be processed by one of our officers promptly".

Not sure why they were unable to send an email but I assume I'll receive a response by post. I shall update this thread here when I do.

Thanks both to @mrmustard and @Hippocrates for your help so far!

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ah, I see. So I should just go ahead and submit that via the 'informal challenge' option on their website?

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Wow, this is amazing @mrmustard, thank you!
What would your confidence levels be of an appeal on these grounds being successful?

How do I go about making those representations? Is there any point in my going through the informal challenge or will they simply reject it because it's a 'moving traffic violation'?

That being the case, do I need to wait until I have been issued a reminder then make the formal appeal?

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@Hippocrates, ah, I see I did not read it closely enough and managed to miss the wording "You cannot make an informal challenge against a moving traffic or postal PCN".  As ours is a moving traffic violation, it seems we cannot make an informal challenge.


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Thanks for the homework @Hippocrates  :) . I see that if I make the informal challenge within 14 days from the date of issue, I will receive a discounted rate if my challenge is unsuccessful. So I have until October 17th to do this.

@mrmustard, the car is on a business contract hire lease which I tried to attach but got an 'upload folder is full' error so could post it to imgur and embed the links here if that would help.

It is a 48 month lease, due to end on 5/02/25.
Clause 5.2 states that "The Customer agrees to indemnify the Lessor from any fines, fees, charges, invoices or penatlies resulting from motoring offences or violation of traffic or parking regulations or restrictions".
I'm guessing this is not what you would have been looking for though?

I definitely count myself among those who want to fight as I hate paying PCNs, but if it seems like there is little chance of successfully challenging one, I'd prefer to pay the discounted amount than the full amount.

Any advice you can give will be gratefully received!

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Got it.. thanks both of you for your replies!

Here is the front page of the PCN:



And here is a link to the location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/kVNdkEggoFyXBhmB7

On your point about not paying the PCN without first trying a representation, I thought if you appealed and were rejected, you ended up having to pay the full £130 rather than the discounted £65. Is that not the case?

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Hi All,

We have just received a PCN for exactly the same contravention described in this thread (52 Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicles) i.e. turning into New Park Road (D), recorded on August 26th.

@cp8759, I'm tagging you as you made the last posts to the other thread in May this year. From those, it looks like the once solid defence of Lambeth not having GLA consent is no longer valid, at least until March 2025.

If I have understood that correctly, is there any other chance of appealing this PCN or should I cough up while it's still in the discounted period?

Thanks!
Steve

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Hello All,

We have just received a PCN for exactly the same contravention described in this thread i.e. turning into New Park Road (D), recorded on August 26th.

From the last messages, it looks like the once solid defence of Lambeth not having GLA consent is no longer valid, at least until March 2025.

Have I understood correctly?
Is there any other chance of appealing it or should I cough up while it's still in the discounted period?

Thanks!
Steve

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