It's confusing signage approaching that bridge in the permitted direction!

https://tinyurl.com/5c5d6ekp

Where were you parked? How did you get into the main car park from Burger King?

@baroudeur, I know what you mean but hopefully, 'where was your car parked..how did the driver get'...covers the issues.!!

Anyway, as regards the breach ..., do you know what retail outlets are served by the ECP-controlled car park [superseded by the OP's last point] and when do they close on Wednesdays?

I ask because the car park is for 'Customers Only' and if the shop(s) are closed then there should be no time permitted and 'customers only' and '10 minutes' are mutually exclusive and as the PCN doesn't state which applies then it does not clearly state 'the circumstances in which the requirement to pay them [the parking charges] arose'.

The Range and Dreams car park is locked shut at 10pm and afaik doesn't have a 10 minute restriction after 9. So, not sure which car park the op was in I asked "why were you parked and how did you get there". Entry to the main car park should be ONLY via the new road although entry via the exit at the BK roundabout is possible at that time of night

Edit:  There is no Wednesday closing so not sure why you raised it. BK and KFC have their own carks separate from the main and Range car parks.

The driver did and has a time stamped transaction.

However the Burger King where they went is not in that car park and has its own smaller car park across the road (which was full, hence them going into this one). So I doubt Burger King would have the ability to cancel a ticket?

That's my local retail park and I suspected that was the case.    The 10 minute limit after 9 is to restrict anti-social behaviour.  Unfortunately the fast food outlets' own car parks tend to fill so customers then use the main car parks without reading the T&Cs which leadsto your type of situation.

Parking parallel to the garage doors would put the car off the footpath?

GSV suggests that the vehicle was (only just) in Seymour Road?

https://tinyurl.com/42krm8um

Quote from: John Glacier on April 26, 2024, 01:58:49 pm

Is it true that motorways originally had no speed limit?

Yes, I'm told that coaches used to travel at 90 mph and it wasn't uncommon for cars to travel at 100 mph, that all came to an end when a temporary speed limit was introduced in winter owing to bad fog causing many crashes (as if anyone would do such speeds in heavy fog anyway). That "temporary" speed limit is still with us today.

I live one mile from the M1 and when it opened I used it every day for over ten years to commute to work for a major car and truck maker. Later, I commuted into central London on it.

In the early years  Midland Red coaches were often seen travelling at 80+ mph.  I drove company cars, including police demonstrators and executive models at up to 100 mph on many occasions and an occasional truck at 70+.  However, there was much less traffic on the M1 in the 60s and, generally, most vehicles travelled at 55-60 mpg as cars were much less powerful than later models.
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Initially, it could be assumed that the goods vehicle restriction applies to permit holders with such vehicles.  The lack of any further signs for the restriction tends to weaken that argument.

There are a few panel vans plated at 5t which may be the intended target cut-off for residential Environmental weight restrictions.

@baroudeur
There has not been a sign at that spot when I've been there. Certainly not at this time.

I visited Belper Road clinic yesterday.  It appears that the no waiting sign has now been moved 15 metres along and it's mounted about three metres high, above the alarm box, on the street lighting column next to the large white garage doors.

http://tinyurl.com/4w57nc3c



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