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*train fairs reclaimable as expenses anyway.
No they're not, costs awards are exceptionally rare.

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Hippocrates while video hearings will be the default, you'll still be able to ask for a face to face hearing.

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@iispartan it's worth keeping an eye on the council website once every couple of weeks or so, most councils will update the status to indicate if the NTO has been issued. At the moment is says "Your PCN is at full rate stage" and I suspect it will change to something different once the NTO has gone out, this will allow you to challenge the NTO even if it's lost in the post (you don't need to physically receive it to make a representation, you just need to know it exists).

While we're on this topic, the website wrongly says that the the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £195.00 on 17 February 2025, which amounts to an unlawful threat:



This is a winning ground of appeal in its own right.

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@Hashim the code is legally irrelevant, as I said any mitigating circumstances, even if apparently unrelated to the contravention and somewhat far-fetched, can significantly strengthen your case.

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Well the council relies on CCTV evidence, so I made a little video of my own to show that the council website is completely inaccurate and misleading:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcXD8U9Gv4

Obviously we don't want to show our hand early, @faqasim for now just make a representation as follows:

Dear London Borough of Harrow,

There  there was no breach of an order or regulations of the type described in section 4(2) of the London Local Authorities Act 1996.

Yours faithfully,


Send this online and take a screenshot of the confirmation page.

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@Hippocrates this looks correct to me?



@Barnetbod have a read of this: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581

If you share the supporting evidence with me privately, I can set up a couple of links with a click counter. I'll drop you a PM.

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I have requested the traffic order for the bay, the last time I dealt with such a bay in Newham it turned out the traffic order didn't exist, or rather it did but it was for a normal bay.

Also do you have any mitigating circumstances, even if unrelated to the contravention itself?

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@stevec in the circumstances you cannot file a statutory declaration saying you have not received a Notice of Rejection, because you've shown it to us so you've clearly received it.

The most sensible option at this point would be to file an out of time appeal with the tribunal, I'm going to drop you a PM in case you'd like me to represent you. Arguably you have nothing to lose at this point.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Red Route
« on: January 16, 2025, 11:42:55 pm »
@artbolt we can beat most if not all red route PCNs, but you need to follow the guidance John U.K. has pointed to, otherwise we have nothing to work with.

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Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt8OEBbVYw4

So here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/Kxum277MfacivDZA7

Even if the sign on the planter was obscured, there would have still been two signs, one on either side of the road, so really this is going to be a case for the strategy of last resort (which can win, so don't give up and pay now).

Do you have any evidence about your child's stay?

Also do you have any mitigating circumstances, especially anything unrelated to the alleged contravention?

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It seems a complaint to the LGO is required, this will be far easier if I do it for you, so I'm going to drop you a PM.

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