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Good info because GSV dated Aug. 2025 only shows HS on the CPZ signs, similarly with the permit holder places in Aubrey.

So OP, is your permit HS or PC?

My permit is PC - as they created a new zone within the last year.

Unfortunately though I’ve just returned from work and found that they did install CPZ signs recently at the entrance to the road for the PC zone - so I take it that the restrictions on the yellow line will be valid.

Given the above think I’m inclined to just pay and move on, as I think the PCN is valid and Waltham Forest have no inclination to waive these kinds of offences sadly

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@tincombe @stamfordman @Incandescent @Anarchist

Thanks all for your help. So it looks like there is a CPZ however there is not any signage that I can see, I’ve put photos on the original post and street view shows none either. All of the parking signs on the road are only residents parking signs.

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What are the 'prescribed hours' for this line and how are they conveyed?

There are none - hence part of the basis for my informal appeal. As can be seen on the street view the signs are just for residents parking permit zones for the bays (of which I have a permit) and there’s no CPZ except for the resident parking. It’s just a single yellow line painted in front of a neighbours garage that isn’t used.

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This is a footling contravention but once your wheels are on the yellow line the contravention is made out.

I would have a go with a challenge based on the circumstances but WF like most London councils these days is not minded to accept there is no traffic management imperative in enforcing this.

It's an informal challenge at this stage.

Thank you for responding.

I've raised an informal appeal - predominantly focussing on the points that I have parked as closely to be within the regulations as I could given the extremely limited parking on the road and with no obstruction to traffic, as well as highlighting the lack of any signage for the single yellow line that is there.

I don't know if there's any hope of them deciding to support the appeal, but we will see. They recently changed the parking zone here to limit our residential parking permit to just a few small one-way roads, which are all almost entirely occupied at any one time and any spaces that are left often get filled with blue badge holders visiting the main road next to us. I've raised the point that there was not any where else for me to park, but I doubt they will care.

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Hi everyone and thanks for taking the time to help.

I live on a restricted residential parking street in Walthamstow (Aubrey Rd, E17 4SL), outside our house is space for two cars in a bay. When I returned home from work last night - a blue badge holder had parked right in the middle of both bays; unfortunately a common and frustrating problem as we are right next to the high street and blue badge holders often park there temporarily to access the shops. I parked up behind their car as tight as I could, expecting them to leave in an hour or so, meaning I could then just move forward into the space fully later. Unfortunately they did not leave, and I received a PCN this morning as my car was partially outside the lines, over a single yellow line that sits in front of a neighbour's unused garage. Because the available parking spaces on this road are very limited (and very tight spacing) my experience previously has usually been that the wardens will allow a grace of some distance over the line as long as it's not obstructing - however clearly that did not happen here.

 My question as to whether a formal appeal is worthwhile or not relies on two possibilities that I can see:

1 - the reason for penalty was given as "01 - Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours" however I have a valid virtual residents parking permit for this street. Would being partially outside of the parking bay be a valid reason to apply the above code? Or if that was the reason for the PCN, should that have been given as a different code, and therefore a valid reason to appeal?

2 - The area to the rear of the parking bay is a short, single yellow line that covers a neighbours garage entrance (irrelevant legally but this has never been used for vehicle storage or access - hence why I didn't feel obliged to keep clear for my neighbour's sake) however this yellow line has no sign to indicate restrictions - would this be grounds for appeal, or does this line mean no parking at any time (surely this should be a double yellow instead??)

Photos below

Penalty Charge Notice:


Photos of my car parked:




Photos of the bay:



Google street view:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BStyESKskr2FVvAU9

Thanks in advance for any help or advice!!

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