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Messages - BertB

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Drop the expensive solicitor, I think they are leading you up the path with the getting a discontinuance of both charges. Your best outcome is to offer to plead guilty to the speeding offence IF the S.172 charge is dropped. From what we hear, most courts are aware of this process and usually accept it at the time of entering a plea after the Stat.Dec is accepted. However if not, request a full court hearing and speak to the prosecutor on the day.

You can do this yourself without the cash outlay.   

I assume for certain you know you were dual charged for both offences?

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The court have the date, the judgement and your licence number. It shouldn't be too hard to track down the case...

Is that necessarily right?

If the error is at DVLA's end (eg a transposition error or "fat finger" error) it may not help the mags court to know the OP's DL number (or name and DOB)

All we know (or can presume) is that somebody else's conviction got wrongly recorded against the OP's licence (and name).

Depending on the nature and extent of the error (and who committed it) the mags court may have no details that can be linked to the OP.

(I am assuming the court have already genuinely tried to find these details and have failed.  Or at least that is what they have told the OP.  I suppose the next step would be for court staff to look at every relevant conviction on the date in question and check to see if those convictions have been recorded against the correct licences and drivers by the DVLA.  Or perhaps they have the power to direct the DVLA to do that?)

You have more or less just repeated my suggestion. If the DVLA do not keep records (Shocking but unsurprising) the only course of action is via the MC. Given the detail known versus the potential detail unknown, they should still be in a position to recover the documentation regarding the conviction with the information the OP has.

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The court have the date, the judgement and your licence number. It shouldn't be too hard to track down the case. It is more a case of you are dealing with a group of people who don't want to do it. But keep at them. There is no way that they can claim t0 have applied justice correctly if they have punished the wrong person. 

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I think as much as the vindictive Sister-in-Law angle is intriguing (and potentially entertaining), that neither the Police nor Courts have a record of a conviction in your name, or any action issued in your name or against your VRN would suggest this is probably an admin error.

I couldn't find the post Andy was referencing earlier that I also recall, where I think the OP had multiple convictions due to a ticket scamming operation, but I did find this one from last year.

https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/incorrect-endorsement-information-on-my-driving-licence-advice/

They may not have any record against Paul Jones, but that doesn't mean they haven't messed up processing Phil Jones' conviction who happens to have the same birthdate.

Edit. As Andy said, the DVLA being helpful is a sign of impending doom. However the DVLA being helpful but denying they f**ked up is probably likely and resets the threat level. 

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Is it worth getting a lawyer?
« on: August 25, 2026, 10:17:16 am »
So I had 9 points on my licence since before going to court. In January I was in court and they just removed my oldest offence that had 3 points and put this last one.

So basically you had 6 active points on your licence at the time of the offence?

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Am going direct to court on this, no option given to go into speeding course as they say I this exceeds my allowed points.
Due to my history (Went to court in January and get given a second chance), is it even worth getting a lawyer for this?

Nothing to do with points, you were not offered a course because you were doing 43mph which exceeds the threshold for the offer.

When you say you were given a second chance in court, what do you mean? It can't have been a successful EH argument as you would be on 12 points but with no disqualification for 'totting up'. Were you acquitted due to the late NIP defence?

Either way, this should not affect your opportunity to use an(other) exceptional hardship argument in court as to why you should not lose your licence. Losing your job alone is not usually an accepted reason. Impact your ban would have on others would be more effective, but it is a difficult hurdle to jump these days. Other than job, what are your reasons?

BTW, this reads like you knew you were exceeding the limit but didn't think that particular camera would catch you.
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Didn't see that the camera was not just for the red light. Did 43 in a 30.

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What are the software company appealing against. Your fine?

Personally I would not be leaving myself the possibility of receiving a CCJ in the hands of your accountant's software company. None of this hurts them in anyway. Phone the SW company, find out what stage they are at and what correspondence they have received. In the meantime pay BW and send an invoice to your accountant for the fees, who in turn can bill the SW company.

A software fault that they have admitted liability for is unlikely to make anyone drop this. 

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Yep, from what you have told us unfortunately that is the likely outcome. Just putting it back in the cradle you might have been able to argue down to not in proper control. But the way it is written, the only choice you probably have is lubed or Option B, dry.   

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You probably should have requested footage or image stills (to assist with identifying the driver) before you named yourself. Now you have there is no obligation to provide you with evidence unless you opt for a court hearing.   

You need to be a bit more open with us about what you did with the phone, otherwise it is hard to advise.

From what you describe, you turned maps back on and put the phone back in the cradle, I'm guessing you held this in your hand while looking down, tapping at the screen when sat at the lights?

Why did the phone fall out of the cradle? And why wouldn't it fall out of it again as soon as you started moving? 

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The Flame Pit / Re: Video of me in my vehicle on X
« on: August 10, 2026, 10:00:04 am »
* £200 & 6 points.

I personally wouldn't be worried about it. I've seen enough of these videos* and I can honestly say I do not remember a thing about the star or their vehicle. How many people really are going to be outraged enough by someone on their phone, while sat stationary at the lights, that they would want to be confrontational in the future?

Ultimately the posters are doing it for content and the more they can annoy someone into reacting the better. Any moral story they may want to plead about doing it for dead relatives is generally a load of old **** to attempt to garner sympathy over criticism.

* Usually because I want to see if someone gets out their vehicle and head butts him, the cycling nonce.

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Presumably no issues with what you have seen on the site?

That speed would normally qualify for a speed awareness course if eligible. Otherwise 3pts and £100, assuming the driver is currently on less than 9pts.

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What was your alleged speed?

You asked if the links expire, they can do. How long ago was the offence and how long have you had your request for driver information.

This needs to be completed irrespective of whether you have seen the pictures or not.

With regard to the calibration checks, unless you were doing 80 or 100mph it is probably of no use knowing.

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OP you have shared the letter but not the pictures, so we'll have to take your word for it.

As pointed out already the offence is complete. However there is nothing to stop you calling the ticket office or attaching a letter with your driver nomination pointing out that you did in fact stop if the pictures show this. Do not be confrontational or demanding, just ask if based on this they would kindly consider dropping the offence.

Level of success is not high, but if you don't ask you don't get. Just don't make it look like you are challenging the evidence or give them the impression that you would reject all offers and like to take the matter to court.

And I would like to wake up next to Alyson Hannigan. Which also isn't going to be happening.

Got to love a cheeky ginger. The same applies to Karen Gillan & Rose Leslie...

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S172 covers the duty to identify the driver of a vehicle.
Do the SJPNs refer to speeding and/or failure to identify the driver?

Reading the thread answers your question. Particularly the post directly above yours (point 1).

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The Flame Pit / Re: Have I been caught?
« on: July 02, 2026, 09:56:06 am »
I think it would be physically impossible to move into the bus lane only once you are level with the use bus lane sign. There would have to be a dramatic last minute swerve and you would still be a couple of feet prior to the sign.

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