I think the dates are too close for an unlawful service of CC claim to succeed.

Thank you.

@ Tincombe

Please don’t be annoyed with me — busy mama multitasking. When I read your response, I edited my reply but accidentally left it as a question rather than a confirmatory statement.

What I meant to say was: “So, I should contact the London Tribunals (ETA) to find out when and how the authority was notified.” — not “Should I contact the LT..'' I will contact ETA on Monday.

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Hi all,

 I requested help previously but received no replies. Am I posting this on the wrong thread?

Following my original query, I submitted my appeal to the London Tribunals on 25/09/2026, and my hearing has been listed for April 2027.

However, today I received a Charge Certificate dated 29/09/2026, demanding payment of £240 for the alleged unpaid penalty within 14 days, stating that enforcement action will follow if it is not paid.

I would like to clarify the timeline. The Notice of Rejection sent to me by Ealing Council is dated 28/08/2026 and states that I have 28 days from the date of service to appeal. As 31/08/2026 was a Bank Holiday, I understand the date of service would have been 02/09/2026, making the 28-day appeal deadline 29/09/2026.

I submitted my appeal to the London Tribunals on 25/09/2026, therefore before the deadline.

I would appreciate advice on how I should proceed now. In particular, can Ealing Council lawfully issue a Charge Certificate while my appeal has already been lodged with the London Tribunals and a hearing has been scheduled?

Could procedural impropriety be raised as a ground for having the PCN cancelled, given that the Charge Certificate appears to have been issued while the appeal was already with the Tribunal?

Any advice on the correct procedure at this stage would be greatly appreciated.

Hi all,

Help, please- I received a Notice of Rejection of Formal Representation from Ealing Council; my formal appeal was rejected (as you predicted). The Council sent a standard verbatim letter; it didn't address my points at all. The letter arrived by post; it is dated 28/8/26. (Letter received on Tuesday 1/9/26/; Monday was a Bank holiday)

I'm not sure whether the 28 days counts from 28/8/26 for my tribunal appeal or from 1/9/26. I completely forgot about this; I don't think I have much time left to appeal
Also, do you have any advice for the tribunal? Is it better to attend in person or by Zoom? Anything else which might help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

hi,


Yes, thank you- they are back online today, so I looked at the cases. There are 21 cases listed for appeals; 3 were allowed.

I'm going to send my representation today via email. I'll let you know Council's response.

This is great news, as this is exactly my case, except it isn't a 'no right turn ' sign, but a 'no left turn' sign on Greenford Rd. I think the adjudicator confused them. How did you find that case, please? I tried to find any Tribunals via AI, but didn't come up with anything. How do I search for it?

Today I took some photos.

The "No Left Turn" is completely out of the driver's view when turning from Costons Lane onto Greenford Road. The same applies when turning left from Greenford Road onto Costons Lane—the sign is very high up, making it impossible to read in time before turning. 


I also took a photo of the "No Left Turn" sign, but it hasn't come out very well, so I'll need to take another one.

I've attached another dashcam video from today's drive, along with a few additional still photos of the road and signage.

Please let me know if these would be sufficient evidence for the Tribunal.

I've also circled the location of the "No Left Turn" sign in red. It appears to be facing towards pedestrians rather than approaching drivers. I also arrowed my trajectory of driving from Costons Lane- Greenford Rd (right turn). The 'No left turn sign isn't visible from that angle for drivers. It is on a lamp at a weird angle away from the road.

Please share your wisdomous ideas & views- thanks a million!


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Hi,

Thank you for your reply & patience.

The "No Left Turn" sign is not visible to me when turning from Costons Lane onto Greenford Road. I uploaded my dashcam footage from last Friday's drive home, and the sign doesn't even appear in my field of view.

I'm fairly sure the council will reject my appeal, and I'm prepared to take the case to the tribunal. I genuinely believe this restriction is being used as a money-making generator for the council because the positioning of the sign at the junction of Greenford Road and Costons Lane is completely inadequate. It is impossible to read it safely while making the turn.

In the council's own PCN footage, you can see a child standing on the pedestrian island waiting to cross. If I had turned my head to look back at the sign after completing the turn, I would have been taking my eyes off the road and away from pedestrians, which would clearly be unsafe.

I have no experience with the tribunal process. My understanding is that if I challenge the PCN within the 14-day discount period (the PCN was issued on 1 July 2026), the council will most likely reject my representations but will normally re-offer the opportunity to pay the reduced amount of £80 rather than the full penalty of £160.

What evidence will I need if the case goes to the tribunal? I already have my dashcam footage and intend to record another video, as I drive that route home from work regularly. Do you think poor signage is the strongest argument in my case?

I have also taken photographs of the PCN. Please let me know if you would like to see them.

Based on my dashcam footage, do you think I have a reasonable chance of succeeding? "No Left Turn" sign is simply not visible from the angle at which I approached and made the turn to Greenford rd.I uploaded my dashcam footage from last Friday's drive home in my first post, and the sign doesn't even appear in my field of view.

 
My question is whether the sign is positioned so that a reasonably careful driver can see, read and act on it BEFORE entering the Costons lane. 
Even if I was able to read the sign (I would have to take my eyes off the road), I would have turned by that time and wouldn't be able to stop & reverse back into the busy road. I don't know the technicalities of signs, but surely they should be displayed prominently in the driver's view and in time to make an important decision.

Can I submit my representations to the council by email, together with my supporting evidence (email provided with PCN). I have also taken photographs of the PCN. Please let me know if you would like to see them.

From your experience, if I were not successful at the Tribunal, would I still be given a chance to pay £80,not £160?

What do you think? Thank you!

hi,

I was driving from Greenford Rd, turning left onto Costons Lane; no additional signs were seen before my turning. My drive journey was Costons Lane- turning right onto Greenford Road- then a left turn onto Costons Lane.


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