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If you could show us your representations and the council's response, that could help others in the future.

Hi All

Sorry was away for a while.

My response was as follows:

"I am well aware of the restrictions in place at this location.
The street signs at this location state the restrictions are in force from 11pm-5am.
The time on my car clock at the time you say I contravened was 10.59pm.
Therefore, I believe this contravention did not occur.
However, after reviewing the video evidence I can see the clock on the CCTV states I contravened at 23:01.
I do not know the accuracy of the clock on the CCTV but would imagine is precise.
I feel that this PCN is a little unfair on the basis that not everyone's clock is accurate and calibrated to the exact second. Given that this contravention is within 60 odd seconds after being live, I am appealing this PCN for reconsideration.
Thank you"


Councils response:

Thank you for writing to us and explaining the circumstances.
Although your Penalty Charge Notice was correctly given, we have cancelled it on this occasion.
We sent you a Penalty Charge Notice because our camera evidence shows your vehicle was seen travelling through a bus lane which is restricted during the hours of 11:00pm- 5:00am allowing bicycles, buses and taxis only during these hours. The restriction runs from its junction with Lichfield Street to its junction with Goodall Street in both directions.
There are signs in place on the approach to the Bus Lane which are in place to make the driver aware that they are approaching a Bus Lane.
If you receive any further Penalty Charge Notices in similar circumstances, we may not be able to cancel it.

Hope this helps you guys out if you ever fall in a similar situation


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Morning All.

Just to let you know i contacted the council and appealed the contravention.
I sent them an email based on timing and stated my clock showed 10.59.
And that the contravention based on their cctv timing is within 60 odd seconds of the bus gate being live and not everyones clocks are calibrated within seconds.

Thankfully they have contacted me that they have decided not to charge me on this occasion!!

I thank you all for you advice and assistance on this matter

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Thank you very much for your response guys. Much appreciated.
I have appealed to the council. lets see what they come back with, most likely they will not retract and will need to appeal to an adjudicator.

Will update you guys on the process
thanks

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Hi
Sorry about that. Have now attached picture of sign below.

Also i am not sure if this holds any value at all.
But i found the following page describing that this section of bus lane was setup as an experimental Excersice.

https://go.walsall.gov.uk/newsroom/experimental-traffic-restriction-bridge-street-walsall

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Hi. Thanks for your reply.
I viewed the pcn evidence here:

https://parking.walsall.gov.uk/penaltychargenotice/

Sorry there were 2 more pages with the pcn. Have now attached

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Hi All

I have recently received a fine from Walsall council.
Location: Bridge street
Contravention: 34J being in a bus lane

According to street signs the bus lane is active from 11pm - 5am (have attached a picture)
The time they have me going through the lane is @ 23:01.
To be precise, after reviewing the cctv footage, i entered the lane and come into the cctv view at 23:01:03 and exit the cctv view at 23:01:08

I am pretty certain my clock was before 11 but obviously cannot be sure as i have no dashcam etc.

Do i have a leg to stand on here to appeal this due to possible difference in timing?

Thanks in advance

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