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I am in concurrence with Andy. They ought to institute the policy you bargained for (and probably give you a gesture of goodwill).

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What does your contract say about consequential losses?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Received SJPN yesterday
« on: February 22, 2024, 05:58:12 pm »
Paid what fine though?

The normal process is that you name yourself as the driver and the police then send you a conditional fixed penalty offer. Is that what happened?

Some forces use a ‘combined’ form, which does allow you to pay upfront but I’m only aware of Avon & Somerset doing that.

Regardless, if you didn’t comply with the conditions you’ll end up in court, where you can ask to be sentenced at the fixed penalty level.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Received SJPN yesterday
« on: February 22, 2024, 05:37:28 pm »
You don’t “pay an NIP” though, you pay a conditional fixed penalty offer. So, did you receive one of those?

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The recipient of the s 172 notice (inevitably the registered keeper) will be prosecuted. Assuming they are the person keeping the vehicle, they have a defence if they can prove (on the balance of probabilities) that they did not know who the driver was and could not identify them after exercising reasonable diligence. It’s not an easy defence but you’ve given us no details so hard to say.

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The “old” address presumably.

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The Flame Pit / Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« on: February 15, 2024, 11:13:26 am »
I shall take a look.

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Not updating your address is an offence. It is almost never prosecuted. I would not be overly concerned about it. Even if you were prosecuted, any fine would be far less than the statutory maximum.

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The Flame Pit / Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« on: February 13, 2024, 07:12:45 pm »
Nope. Anyway, it would be a long list bearing in mind all the advertising spammers etc.

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The Flame Pit / Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« on: February 13, 2024, 05:03:20 pm »
Same username?

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The Flame Pit / Re: does anyone use Pepipoo??
« on: February 13, 2024, 12:53:09 pm »
It seems rumours of its passing were greatly exaggerated?

Yet, my 'temporary' suspension until 10 years ago is still in place!

'Your account has been temporarily suspended. This suspension is due to end on Tue, 8 Dec 1914 - 10:19.'

What was your egregious infringement?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: The interests of justice?
« on: February 09, 2024, 10:35:07 pm »
As I said in the other place, the disqualification isn’t discretionary, it is mandatory (subject to exceptional hardship). Reopening the case to impose the order required by law is a paradigm case of the interests of justice.

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If you accept a fixed penalty (or, in your case, purport to accept a conditional fixed penalty by complying with the conditions) you cannot be convicted of the underlying offence.

PS: “licence” is a noun, “license” is a verb.

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Based on this & the current one being issued after 14 days, do I have any hope of a defence here?
If they served an NIP on the RK within 14 days, no. They wouldn’t have to serve one on you at all, let alone within 14 days.

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Well, yes. There is only one NIP required by law, which must be served on the driver (who the police don’t know) or the registered keeper within 14 days (subject to exceptions). One would guess it has been served on the RK.

If you think about it, a recipient of a s 172 notice to name the driver has 28 days to do so - so how would the police be able to get a notice to you within 14 days?

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