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As above.

In any event, nothing you have told us suggests any defence or reason for mitigation.

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The Flame Pit / Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
« on: May 20, 2025, 03:31:08 pm »
No.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/782724/traffic-signs-manual-chapter-03.pdf

13.28.1 refers. Without an applicable upright sign the marking is advisory.

Thanks HC, but the Traffic Signs Manual is also advisory!

Can you point to the relevant legislation?

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The Flame Pit / Re: School Zig Zag lines - no signs
« on: May 20, 2025, 02:29:25 pm »
Hi,

Just a quick one - if there is no sign showing times of operation for yellow 'keep clear' zig zag lines outside a school, are they enforceable? To be clear I'm not wanting to park inconsiderately during school times, this is an area that has single yellow lines combined with yellow zig zags and I'd like to park overnight at the weekend, which is permitted by the roadside signage for the single yellows (restrictions 2pm-3pm Mon-Fri).

Here is the place in question https://maps.app.goo.gl/hLTWp8JSCLEmLbim8

Thanks!

AFAIK in the absence of a sign with times of operation, the prohibition applies 24/7.

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OP, there is also a system of street-lighting, which indicates a 30 mph limit.

As for photos, the police do not have to disclose evidence unless you opt for court. A request for photos "to help identify the driver" usually succeeds, but it is too late for that as you have already nominated yourself.

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Many thanks all.

I am indeed in receipt of a conditional offer having confirmed I was the driver.

I naively thought I may have a route to appeal short of going through the courts, but with a baby on the way and a house move I have no desire to do that so I better accept it.

It's a sickener as it is in my view a very minor offence with mitigating circumstances but I could live with having 6 points. I guess when you hear of drivers going through the courts it's when they are about to lose their licence as it's the only context in which it's worth it.
The whole point of a fixed penalty offer is to provide anyone accepting his guilt with a simple solution, avoiding court, and thus saving all parties considerable costs. It therefore does not cater for arguments or appeals.

Whether it was a "very minor" infraction is clearly a matter of opinion. You were 20% over the limit, and the courts' guidelines suggest a fine of half a weeks earnings.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Incorrect NIP
« on: May 13, 2025, 02:07:12 pm »
I suspect your employer put the wrong surname on the s172 they filled in.

By doing nothing, the police are likely to issue a SJPN to mr wrong surname for speeding and FTF in about 5 months time.  At that point replying no such person at your address should see you in the clear.

The company could be prosecuted and fined for filling in the S172 wrongly. 

Of course in the meantime they might go back to your employer when they get no response and if the incorrect name gets spotted you might get a new S172 request but no longer be in time to be able to take a course or COFP.

I see, so is there a time limit for them to take action, I know the NIP has to be issued in 14days which it was but is there another time limit.

The question still is, Do I just ignore this for now or do I reply saying not known at this address ?
Neither. It will catch up with you eventually, and the longer it takes the less chance there will be of your being offered a course or fixed penalty. The only alternative - court - is best avoided, if only to save money.

The only relevant time limit is six months (from the offence date) for the police to begin court action

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OP, what is the "letter" you have now received? Is it a Single Justice Procedure Notice"? If it is, there is no point in contacting the police, as it's out of their hands. Please confirm, so that we can provide proper advice.




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The Flame Pit / Re: Slough BC applying for MTE power
« on: May 13, 2025, 06:51:10 am »
SBC is applying for MTE additional powers for traffic management.

https://www.slough.gov.uk/news/article/514/give-your-feedback-on-new-traffic-proposals-

If you have comments, please follow the process to submit them.
Not the most helpful of thread titles. "SBC" is meaningless to anyone not from Slough (or perhaps from another of the dozens of towns starting with "S"), so I and possibly 90% of forum users waste time reading an utterly irrelevant post.

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What do you mean with the sentencing. With a plea would it not just revert to the speeding offence fine and points.

Yes. But the fine would be income-related (less one third for a guilty plea) and subject to a 40% surcharge - certainly a lot more than the £100 fixed penalty. Plus prosecution costs c£90.

The court has discretion to sentence you at the FP level if it thinks it appropriate. There's nothing to be lost by asking (nicely).

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Cumbria Speeding Ticket
« on: May 10, 2025, 05:13:48 pm »
OP, if they're giving you another opportunity to provide the info, the pragmatic course is to do so rather than get into an argument. I'd be inclined to post it (with proof again) and then phone them after a few days to make sure.

BTW are you sure it's Cumbria?

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Thanks,
so checking the date on the DVLA website states a V5 was issued the month we moved to our current address, suggesting its correct but we dont have one for this address and using this address on the DVLA website to request a new V5 results in an error. Using the old V5 with the incorrect address on it also results in an error but we get a little further.
I think we will need to contact the DVLA, find out the registered address and then see what, if anything has been sent there.
Whatever the outcome of that enquiry, the s172 request to name the driver remains valid: it is not subject to the 14-day rule. Do not fail to respond within the required timescale.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Fixed Penalty
« on: April 25, 2025, 04:54:04 pm »
Have you been provided with a photo showing the gantry? Does that confirm that the only limit showing was above the hard shoulder?

On a more general point, you cannot "challenge" the offer of a fixed penalty. You can either accept it, or go to court. If you were to lose at court, the cost would be nearer £1,000 than £100, plus 4 to 6 points rather than the three now on offer.

Having no previous offences is utterly irrelevant.

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The Flame Pit / Re: TikTok parking fine videos force council review
« on: April 15, 2025, 12:22:49 pm »
The council said it would "explore". Hold the front page!

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Appreciate your comments. Thank you. Going from 3 points to 6, does that elongate the period of having the initial 3 points on my license?
No. The points are active for 3 years from the date of the offence to which they refer. They stay on your licence for a further year, but no longer count for totting purposes.

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The first thing you (or whichever of you the s172 request is addressed to) must do is to name the driver in each case. Failure to do so is a much more serious offence than the speeding. Since you genuinely do not know (and cannot work it out with the required reasonable diligence) then the usual advice is to nominate the most likely driver(s). The nomination must be unequivocal - no buts or maybes.

The only way to avoid points would be to refuse any offer of fixed penalties, and defend the charges in court. Since you seem to accept guilt, that would be a foolish and expensive decision.

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