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Hello,

The deadline for paying the discounted amount if I don't take this further is fast approaching (13th July), so I was just wondering if anyone had further thoughts about challenging the initial decision? Would I have a good chance of successfully appealing based on fairness / disability or any other grounds? If yes, could anyone signpost me to examples or something I could use as a template to help with wording the formal representation?

Thanks so much for your time, advice and support!


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Spoken to PALS who said they've had a few of these lately! They are going to contact UKPC on my behalf then let me know the outcome, so fingers crossed. I'll update when I hear back again.

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Cool, thanks. I'll report back with what they say.

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Thank you for your replies. I haven't tried to contact anyone yet as I wanted to get advice here first. I'm glad to hear the success rate of contesting UKPC PCNs is high.

I'm not sure who contracted UKPC or how to go about contacting the correct management. This PCN claims to have taken place at Nuffield Hospital - which doesn't really exist in any location or as a business. Nuffield Orthopaedic Centre, where this actually took place, does have a PALS service but they are also part of Oxford University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Would you suggest I contact PALS first since it does exist? If not, who? Someone from Nuffield Orthopaedic Centre or Oxford University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust?

Thank you again

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Hello,

On 23rd June after returning from a trip abroad, I, the registered keeper, discovered I'd received a PCN through the post for my vehicle being present on site of Nuffield Hospital in excess of the amount of time paid for / without making a payment. The PCN letter is dated 18th June, with the incident occurring on 12th June.

Upon entering the hospital site from Windmill Road, the driver found a space in a disabled bay in the main car park, parked up, displayed their Blue Badge and went for their appointment under the impression that parking is free for Blue Badge holders.

The hospital website does confirm Blue Badge holders can park free of charge - although it also asks that the vehicle registration number is given to reception within 30 mins of arrival, which the driver did not do as they weren't aware of this requirement. The driver does not remember seeing any parking signs on entry to the hospital grounds or between the car parking space and the hospital's main entrance, let alone prominent ones clearly displaying this information. I live in a different city from the car park so I'm unable to personally check / document signage, nor can I find photos of the parking signs online. Street View images are from no later than 2017, way before the most recent parking price change in 2023.

Photos provided by the PCN only show the vehicle entering and exiting so there is no proof of the Blue Badge being displayed or not either.

Please could you advise how / if I should proceed in challenging this PCN?

Thank you all for your time and support!
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Parking charge info on hospital website: https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/hospitals/noc/find-us/car/#new
The driver parked in the disabled bay closest to the pavement at this dropped pin location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/DeJJMrxv2HknX41cA



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Ok, good to know, thank you. I'd definitely appreciate feedback from others whether they think it's worth fighting this further though.

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Thanks. Yeah, it's all rather dismissive! If I do take it to formal stage and it were rejected again, would I then have to pay the full £160 charge?

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Thanks for the advice. I've finally received a response, which can be read here: https://imgur.com/a/niKdtCS
Unfortunately and as somewhat expected, my appeal was unsuccessful.  :-\

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Thanks all. I don't have a restricted license, no. Here's the draft letter I'm hoping to send tonight:

Dear Islington Council,

I received a PCN (IZ35209471) for parking on a restricted street during prescribed hours, and I’m writing to ask for your discretion in this matter due to my disabilities.

I am a blue badge holder with ADHD, and as you can see from your photos, I was parked on a double yellow line with my blue badge displayed but without the parking clock.
Under normal circumstances, blue badge holders are able to park on double yellow lines for up to three hours if both clock and badge are displayed. However, my ADHD can affect my executive function and memory at times, causing me to be more forgetful and struggle with completing the steps of a simple task like this. It's also worse if I am attempting to complete several tasks at once like I was that day, and I was distracted by the tight schedule I needed to achieve. Therefore, I believe this was the reason I forgot to display my parking clock.

Despite this, I continued to operate under the usual rules for blue badge holders parked on yellow lines and did not overstay the regular 3 hour exemption. As evidence, I have included a screenshot of my Google maps timeline on 6th May, which places my car parked on Market Road for 1 hour and 42 minutes between 12:25 - 14:07.

This screenshot also shows I had multiple destinations / appointments that day, something for which can be challenging for my ADHD. Please see the attached letter as proof of my ADHD and treatment.

I shall be purchasing a wallet that holds both the Blue badge and clock to reduce the chances of this contravention happening again, but please may you take my mitigating circumstances into consideration on this occasion and cancel this PCN.

Thank you for your time

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The Maps timeline is good evidence.

Draft something and post here.

Is there a reason you are forgetful with the clock?

Thanks, I'll see what I can do.

I have ADHD which can affect my executive function and memory. It's worse if I am attempting to complete several tasks at once like I was that day, and I was distracted by the tight schedule I needed to achieve.
Have you got any documents to support the ADHD ?

Yeah, I'm officially diagnosed and medicated for it. I'm also on my disability benefits and have mentioned it in the assessments for those.

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The Maps timeline is good evidence.

Draft something and post here.

Is there a reason you are forgetful with the clock?

Thanks, I'll see what I can do.

I have ADHD which can affect my executive function and memory. It's worse if I am attempting to complete several tasks at once like I was that day, and I was distracted by the tight schedule I needed to achieve.

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This PCN is correctly served I'm afraid - the regulations say you must set a parking clock to get the 3 hour exemption on yellow lines.

You can ask for discretion which Islington may give if you've not done this before in the borough. It would help if you have some proof you were there for less than 3 hours.






Ah, that's a shame but I get it. I was hoping they'd applied the wrong contravention code and I could be let off on that technicality.

I haven't done this in the borough before. Do you have any tips on how to ask for discretion? I could provide a screenshot of my Google Maps timeline saying I was there from 12:25 - 14:07, but that's the only proof I have. 

Thanks.

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Hey folks,

I have received a PCN for parking in a restricted street during prescribed hours; however, I was parked on a double yellow line as a Blue Badge holder and therefore exempt from double yellow line parking restrictions. 

I was parked from approx 12:30 - 2pm, so well within the 3 hour limit but admittedly, I forgot to display my clock along with my displayed blue badge. If I appeal this PCN on the grounds the contravention (code 1) didn't occur, could they issue a PCN for that instead? 

Also, would my first paragraph be sufficient for a letter of representations along with a closing sentence like 'For that reason, the contravention didn't occur'?

Thanks!

Here is the link to the PCN: https://imgur.com/a/iWmVq6n

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I already submitted before the suggestions today so I didn't tell them to 'see attached' in the letter but I did upload them. Will see what they say and keep you updated.

Thanks all.

Good morning I am very interested to see the results of your representation please

They cancelled my PCN but in a very telling off 'don't do it again' manner,  ::) They also said I wouldn't be let off in the future. Here's their response: https://imgur.com/a/beP9Fui

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I already submitted before the suggestions today so I didn't tell them to 'see attached' in the letter but I did upload them. Will see what they say and keep you updated.

Thanks all.

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