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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding Ticket - First time in a Magistrate Court - england
« on: September 05, 2024, 06:17:39 pm »
So i have definetly reflected on this situation and trying to explain anything regarding why it happened will just make me sound like i was riding carelessly, the alternative being that i intentionally broke the speed limit.

Especially considering what NewJudge has said clarified theres a low chance ill lose my licence regardless of the amount of points i recieve, so it seems my best option would be be humble avoid being defensive and essentially appologise.

Would it make any sense to possibly talk about the amount of miles i have since ridden and try to point out that i have been 'clean' since that incident.

Im not sure anyone here can/will advise me on what i should say especially considering you only know me as a random online person with a speeding ticket in the post.
But i feel its worth asking while your all helping me out and have been givening me genuinely helpful infomation/advise.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding Ticket - First time in a Magistrate Court - england
« on: September 05, 2024, 02:17:18 pm »
Just found the letter and it had nothing to do with a fixed penalty i have no idea where i got this idea from...

I first recieved a NIP, then they sent me a letter saying due to the high speed the case will be prepared for the Single Justice Procedure.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding Ticket - First time in a Magistrate Court - england
« on: September 05, 2024, 01:36:58 pm »
Im honestly unsure what the first thing i was given was i remember fixed penalty was in the name, i have since moved house and the letter is still boxed up somewhere (i know thats irresponsible but ive at least kept my summons and statement of facts on me).
I just remember after saying im guilty they sent me a letter that this couldnt be handle under the previous method and forwarded it onto the single justice.
I should probably go digging for these letters again at some point soon.

The speeding offence was committed while i was on my provisional licence, a few weeks after that i got my A2 Licence.
I have never had a full licence for any vehicle type before this.

Just to clarify i was under the impression that if i get 6 points on my provisional them points will carry over onto my full meaning i would lose my licence as i would have 6 points. This is what i meant about having my licence instantly revoked as going over 50 in a 30 is 6 points opposed to 4-6 points.

From what you said in your post it sounds like i can get 6 points on my licence but still be allowed to keep my licence, on the condition i dont commit any more offences?

Thanks for taking the time to help me with this, my messages definetly have come across as scattered thoughts instead of anything comprehensible.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Speeding Ticket - First time in a Magistrate Court - england
« on: September 05, 2024, 04:42:49 am »
I have a few questions regarding Magistrate Courts in general as i have never been to one, and also a few things about what i should or shouldnt say to the court regarding my situation.
For a little more context i am a 20F who was 19 when i got caught by a police van, at the time i was actively completing my motorbike training aiming to acquire my A2 Licence.
I had just picked up my first bike on my CBT which i planned on riding for a few weeks while i continued my training in preparation for my test on the big bikes, one of the things my instructor kept picking up on was my control of my speed i kept either slowing down or speeding up over time while going down straight road or on hills etc. Basically i was inexperienced and still learning (this was my first time ever using the road as i didnt and still dont have a car licence).
On the day of the incident i was going on a 2-3hr to my university off motorways as i was on my CBT hense why it took so long and why i was aiming for my A2 licence, halfway there i was going down a fairly steep hill with a relatively clear road ahead, and due to my inexperience at the time i ended up getting flashed my a police van going 50mph in a 30mph.
Not long after this incident i got my A2 Licence purchased a larger bike and have done about 7000miles on the road commuting to university, visiting family and using it as my daily vehicle without any other incidents.
With all of this in mind i got a Fixed Penalty Notice that they revoked and Replaced with a Single Justice Procedure, i said i was guilty and requested to attend court.
Im aware that i was 1mph away having my licence outright revoked (new learners act + 6 points = no more licence) so i feel lucky to even have the chance to keep my licence. Currently im unsure if any of the above is worth mentioning/bringing up as a "defense" or as a way of showing them that i have since become a better, safer and more competent rider.
On another note when it comes to attending court the only outfit i have that i believe is appropriate would be a simple black straight dress with some black boots and a simple/smart black handbag. Nothing that stands out just smart/formal.
When it comes to talking to them how should i refer to the magistrate or should i expect them to talk me through everything?
Sorry for this long post thanks for reading, im hoping that explaining mostly everything to do with my situation someone will be able to clear up some of my concerns and give me a better idea of what i should and shouldnt say in the court, and if anyone has been in a similar situation what the court issued them with and what attending court was like.

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