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Hi guys and gals. Big shout out to the folks in the PPC area of this website; the offending company has backed off, for now! But alas I present with another problem:

My wife managed to hit a sizeable pothole—in the London Borough of Hillingdon—a while back. This resulted in the ‘debeading’ of a tyre, and the sump suffering a fatal crack. To compound this the actual breakdown occurred (some minutes after impact) on the A40, during rush hour (always rush hour there, right?). And as such the police had to be called who then towed the car to their pound, and we then had to arrange towing home etc.

These costs escalated the total bill to an eye watering amount, so we are keen to give this claim for compensation our best shot. I’ve already submitted photographic evidence of the damage, along with garage receipts for everything, and even the police report number. Location and images of the defect were all very detailed and included.

I used ChatGPT to check my original submission, to make it more presentable etc., and the council’s representatives have responded denying responsibility. ChatGPT gave us a response to send back, asking for:

* A copy of the highway inspection records for this location for the 12 months prior to the incident
* The inspector’s notes from the inspection carried out on 18/12/2025 (as per their email)
* Details of the council’s intervention criteria for carriageway defects
* Any records of complaints, reports or works orders relating to this defect/location prior to my incident
* The inspection report and photographs from the safety inspection carried out on 13/03/2026 (as per their email)

So, does anyone think this is all going well, and does anyone have experience of using ChatGPT for these matters, or perhaps you guys can advise better than AI (no offence intended—pothole claims just might not be rocket science).

Any advice will be greatly appreciated, of course!

Hi guys,

My wife has picked up a 31J Entering and stopping etc, location Hornsey Road N7 Junction Rollit Street N7.

I’ve had a look at the supplied video (and I was there at the time), and the contravention seems made out—her exit was not clear (she was in the ‘left turn only’ lane and while the right hand lane exit (see pics) was clear, I don’t believe that helps), the stop was well within the box and the time spent stopped quite lengthy.

So, really I’m just checking whether or not the PCN is compliant.

Many thanks as always, for your time

Hi again,

We have now received the LBC. Please advise on our next steps.

Many thanks, as always

Thank you for the detailed reply b789.

So, the email was sent on Tuesday, and Moorside have just responded today (hopefully they are getting sick of us), with the below:

We write in relation to the above matter.

The PCN was issued for Parked outside of the confines of a marked bay High Point Village.

We are unable to provide the site map you require we have already provided all evidence and information from our client.

By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms and conditions were clearly displayed in prominent places. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and conditions, our client has issued the PCN.
 
 
Considering the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN has been issued in line with industry standards and is compliant with the International Parking Community’s (IPC) code of practice. The signage of the car park also complies with the International Parking Community’s Code of Practice.

 It is unclear why you would need to inspect any agreement between our client and the landowner as you are not party to that agreement, not could it aid your dispute or any potential defence.
below is a breakdown:
 
Why is there an additional £70 added to the PCN amount?
Because the Parking Charge remained unpaid after it was due. Our Client made you aware that additional charges could be applied to the Parking Charge if it was not paid on time. They informed you of this on the parking signs and on any notices either placed on the vehicle or sent to you by post.
 
 

How is the £70 made up?
£70 is the amount set out in both the British Parking Association and International Parking Association Codes of Practice as the amount which may be added to a Parking Charge when a Parking Charge remains unpaid and when further recovery is required. Our Client is a member of ipc which is a government approved Accredited Trade Association (ATA) for Private Parking. Our Client adheres to the ATA’s Code of Practice. The £70 is a charge levied by our Client (the Parking Operator) to protect their legitimate interests. (Our Client’s legitimate interests for charging and additional fee is to encourage payment when the Parking Charge becomes due and to avoid the need for debt recovery.)
Please note that we will not be addressing any further correspondence related to disputes of the same nature, as we have already provided you with a response. However, should you wish to raise a new dispute, we will investigate the matter further and respond accordingly.

 
We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days of receipt of this email.
 
 
You can make payment in the following ways: 
Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday- Friday 9:00- 17:00);
portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
https://pay.moorside.legal - Quick Pay
 
 
If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed by our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will incur further costs and fees that will be added to the outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal advice. 
 
 
Yours sincerely,
Moorside Legal

Thanks b789!

Just one question: in the last email they did actually  provide this linked higher resolution image (higher than the one I previously posted in post #8) showing the car in relation to the sign and the bay markings. Does this change anything in the text you provided for us to send?

Just want to understand why that doesn’t cure one of the ‘deficiencies’.

Thanks!

Hi again!

So, Moorside have replied to the email we sent, as per post #23. They have attached the same three PDFs, as I posted in this thread - post #22, and have written the (I have copied and pasted) below response, which appears to be just an edited version of their last email text.

Please advise on what our next move should be.

Many thanks, as always:


We write in relation to the above matter.

The PCN was issued for Parked outside of the confines of a marked bay

By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms and conditions were clearly displayed in prominent places. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and conditions, our client has issued the PCN.
 
Considering the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN has been issued in line with industry standards and is compliant with the International Parking Community’s (IPC) code of practice. The signage of the car park also complies with the International Parking Community’s Code of Practice.

It is unclear why you would need to inspect any agreement between our client and the landowner as you are not party to that agreement, not could it aid your dispute or any potential defence. 

We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days of receipt of this email.

You can make payment in the following ways: 

Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday- Friday 9:00- 17:00);
portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
https://pay.moorside.legal - Quick Pay
 
If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed by our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will incur further costs and fees that will be added to the outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal advice. 

Yours sincerely,
Moorside Legal

Hi again,

So, as advised, the email was sent to Moorside, and they have now got back with the below email (I copied and pasted), and they also attached a few PDFs. I screen-grabbed the PDFs (linked images in this post) so I can edit sensitive info - sorry for low quality, but it looks like it's just stuff they already sent previously (and not what was asked of them).

Advice on next steps would be most appreciated.

Thanks, as always.

From: noreply@moorsidelegal.co.uk
Date: 16 October 2025 at 11:45:12 BST
To: (redacted)
Subject: Reference: (redacted)


We write in relation to the above matter.

Please see attached.

Our client has instructed us to collect the outstanding balance of £170.00 in relation to an unpaid Parking Charge Notice.

Please be advised that the original amount of the PCN was £100.00. As outlined in the notice, a reduced amount of £60.00 would have been accepted as full and final settlement if payment had been received within 14 days from the date of issue.

Unfortunately, as no payment was received within that time frame, the opportunity to pay the reduced amount has now expired. As a result of continued non-payment and additional charges, the balance has increased and now stands at £170.00.

The additional charge which has been levied on your Parking Charge of £70 is the amount set out in both the British Parking Association and International Parking Community Codes of Practice as the amount which may be added to a Parking Charge when a Parking Charge remains unpaid and when further recovery is required. Our Client is a member of the International Parking Community which is a government approved Accredited Trade Association (ATA) for Private Parking. Our Client adheres to the ATA’s Code of Practice. The £70 does not represent the cost of recovery but is a reasonable amount in relation to the Parking Charge amount, in order to encourage early payment of the Parking Charge without the need for debt recovery. It is a fair amount set by our Client’s government-approved Accredited Trade Association Code of Practice. There are however also costs incurred by our client in relation to debt recovery services.

By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms and conditions were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent places within the car park. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and conditions, our client has issued the PCN therefore if we are instructed to issue a claim the reason would be for Unpaid parking charges/ breach of contract.

It is unclear why you would need to inspect any agreement between our client and the landowner as you are not party to that agreement, not could it aid your dispute or any potential defence.

You have already made representation to our client, who have responded accordingly. We cannot overturn their decision.

In our client’s letter rejecting your appeal you were offered the opportunity to refer your appeal to an Independent Adjudication Service provided by our clients Accredited Trade Association. You did not take this step and we must advise that all appeal avenues have now expired. Considering the evidence we hold we have to advise that the PCN and its associated processes are in line with industry standards and are compliant with our clients Accredited Trade Association’s code of practice.

Please note that we will not be addressing any further correspondence related to disputes of the same nature, as we have already provided you with a response.

We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days of receipt of this email.

You can make payment in the following ways: 

Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday- Friday 9:00- 17:00);
portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
https://pay.moorside.legal - Quick Pay

If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed by our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will incur further costs and fees that will be added to the outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal advice. 

Yours sincerely,

Moorside Legal