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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Croydon, Code 53J, entering timed pedestrian zone, Haling Road South Croydon
« on: January 18, 2025, 12:53:01 pm »
PCN number:CR21920473Contravention number:53j
Click your reason or search for it below
I wasn't aware of the rules
I was picking up/dropping off a passenger
it was an emergency
my satnav misdirected me
using cameras to catch drivers isn't fair
this is a hire car - the hirer should pay
Search all reasons

*****

The above is gibberish.

I did this case if you want my help:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1y9rwLAvWlIFvVUvDHqj6vMuNiGgVOe3d/view

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/bensham-lane-croydon/msg46690/#msg46690

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52(M) failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles) Haringey
« on: January 18, 2025, 12:15:57 pm »
@cp8759 This will be tested on 21st as it is arguable also that the 28 days to issue a charge certificate pertaining to representations deadline which, therefore, is absent in the PCN.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN Bus Lane - Harrow - Northolt RD JCT Alexandra Ave
« on: January 18, 2025, 12:11:20 pm »
I would simply say this as I advised in the case won last year:



I require you to consider my informal challenge as my formal representations and I also make this collateral challenge regarding your website which contains grounds which do not belong to the statutory scheme, thereby causing confusion at least.




Should you not agree to do so, I shall take the matter to the Tribunal and seek independent adjudication as provided by law.

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The Flame Pit / Re: Yellow box junctions and costs orders
« on: January 17, 2025, 12:47:32 pm »
Go for it.  >:(

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The Flame Pit / London Tribunal personal hearings morphing into hearings by video
« on: January 17, 2025, 12:42:16 pm »
:(  :'(

As I joked with Mr Chan and mrmustard the other day, will I need make up?  If so, I hope this will be less expensive than my train fares.

This is quite sad, actually, as I like the journey and it gets me out of the house. Last but not least, the personal interactions will be sorely missed.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52(M) failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles) Haringey
« on: January 17, 2025, 12:02:21 pm »
Quote from: Barnetbod on January 17, 2025, 07:31:45 am
Thanks for the responses and the video which I'd never seen prior to this. Not sure what the first comment above means re 28 days.


The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:

1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question is increased by 50 per cent.

(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice is the period of 28 days beginning—

(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above, with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Croydon, Code 53J, entering timed pedestrian zone, Haling Road South Croydon
« on: January 17, 2025, 11:57:19 am »
Enter the appeal online and screenshot please what you see.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE (144684)
« on: January 17, 2025, 11:43:04 am »
Quote from: Hippocrates on January 15, 2025, 08:29:58 pm
Received your PM. The rest of the PCN please and I would use the challenge as per the link you sent me in your message.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/royal-borough-of-greenwich-bus-lane-infraction-code-34j-being-in-a-bus-lane-char/msg19550/#msg19550

Try this:

Dear Greenwich

I challenge this PCN.................as follows

1. The alleged infraction is de minimis and the video does not show the vehicle cross a solid white line.
2. The legend Bus Lane (1048) is incorrectly positioned.
3. The white line is substantially broken in two places which clearly demonstrates a failure to maintain the signage according to LATOR.
4. The actual 959(B) sign is questionable with an extra plate at the bottom of it.
5. There is no evidence of an advanced  warning signage in the video (958).
6. I put you to strict proof that the camera is properly approved.

In light of the above, please cancel the PCN. Should you do not agree to do so, I shall take the matter to the Tribunal, require your attendance and an explanation as to why you have departed from the signage as advised at page 91 in the Traffic Signs Manual Chapter Three.

Yours

Registered keeper
Address

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Greenwich Council - Bus Lane Infraction, Code 34J @CHARLTON CHURCH LANE JNC WITH BARNEY CLOSE (144684)
« on: January 17, 2025, 11:38:50 am »
Website: 

Bus lane reasons
These are the common reasons relating to bus lanes which we receive queries for

Select a reason:
 I am a Blue Badge holder and I was looking for disabled parking 
 I did not realise I was in a bus lane 
 I entered the bus lane to avoid congestion 
 I stopped in the bus lane due to my medical condition 
 I was avoiding an accident 
 I was following a diversion / was directed into the bus lane 
 I was following my sat-nav / I was lost / I'm not from the area 
 I was in the bus lane, but it wasn't in operation at the time 
 I was in the bus lane, but not for a substantial distance 
 I was making way for an emergency vehicle 
 I was picking up / dropping off a passenger at the train station 
 I was picking up / dropping off a passenger 
 I was taking advice from others 
 I was unaware of the rules 
 I was unaware that couriers were not permitted in the bus lane 
 I was unfamiliar with the term "Bus Gate" 
 My vehicle is a taxi 
 My vehicle type is permitted to drive in bus lanes 
 There was a road closure so the bus lane was not in operation 
 There was nowhere to turn around and avoid the bus gate 
 There were no buses in the bus lane at the time 
Other reasons
Non bus lane specific reasons that will appear in Bus Lane context

Select a reason:
 A friend / family member recently passed away 
 I didn't see / understand the signage 
 I have already paid the PCN 
 I was not at the location on the day 
 I was not the driver 
 I was not the owner / keeper of the vehicle 
 I was unaware that a PCN had been issued as I've been away 
 My vehicle had broken down 
 My vehicle was cloned 
 My vehicle was stolen 
 The owner of the vehicle has passed away 
 The vehicle was on hire to someone else 
None of the above
If none of the above reasons apply, and you wish to challenge your PCN, please select belo

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Croydon, Code 53J, entering timed pedestrian zone, Haling Road South Croydon
« on: January 16, 2025, 03:14:24 pm »
Quote from: rfjammer on January 16, 2025, 02:11:48 pm
Quote from: Hippocrates on January 16, 2025, 12:49:13 pm
Hold fire please. Screenshot their website pages and report back.

Sorry if this comes across as stupid, but which pages do you want me to screenshot?

The representations page(s) which are online.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Croydon, Code 53J, entering timed pedestrian zone, Haling Road South Croydon
« on: January 16, 2025, 12:49:13 pm »
Hold fire please. Screenshot their website pages and report back.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Southwark 32d - Failing to drive in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign (proceeding in the wrong directi
« on: January 16, 2025, 12:44:13 pm »
Sorry but the PCN is fatally flawed. You are missing the technical point I am afraid. I would take this all the way and have a hearing shortly on the same issue.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 52(M) failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles) Haringey
« on: January 16, 2025, 12:42:39 pm »
The increased payment period is wrongly stated: payment from 28 days of service. Wrong action.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN at my own driveway - pavement parking - Bexley
« on: January 16, 2025, 11:47:42 am »
My absolute pleasure as ever. I am turning into a Welsh bard.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN 31J Bromley Council 31 Aug 24
« on: January 16, 2025, 11:39:53 am »
;D De minimis. 2240537258. BTW the PCN is flawed but we never got around to that point as the OP was superb. I said nothing.

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