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Does it help that that little stretch of no loading lines are right next to disabled bays?

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Does this mean that this is then challengable?

From what you quoted from the TSM, my understanding is that because the upright sign was present but turned away from the carriageway, it means the authority did choose to rely on signage but it was presented incorrectly by being turned around and not visible from the road.

Ill be interested to see and may take a trip to have a look, since this PCN was issued nearly a week ago if the sign is still turned around.

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Hi all,

Back with another one. Need assistance on a no loading zone.

The driver parked in the borough of Redbridge using a blue badge on double yellows. However it turned out to be a no loading zone but the driver was unaware as the no loading sign was turned around and not visible from the road.

Checking the PCN pictures, there were double blips on the kerb, but that was missed by the driver otherwise they would have parked elsewhere.

Is the sign being turned around enough to challenge the pcn? Looking for confirmation on the best angle for representations and whether Redbridge normally contests these when signage visibility is the issue.






GSV Link
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Balfour+Rd,+Ilford/@51.5597938,0.0704593,3a,55.2y,329.36h,79.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sZu_p8WGquJotqltRDy-rUQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.clients6.google.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D10.147126255398604%26panoid%3DZu_p8WGquJotqltRDy-rUQ%26yaw%3D329.35754292235697!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x47d8a68c2595bb45:0xcccebef43a6751dc!8m2!3d51.5634702!4d0.0765883!16s%2Fg%2F1ttpg4qt?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDgxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

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Update

They have cancelled the ticket! I think the fact that I took pictures of the blue badge the right side up next to the pcn untouched helped my case.

Also this car park is a weird one. I agree that online it states that bb holders can only park in designated bays, but a lot of people park here in normal bays with a bb without consequence. I have seen the parking wardens just check the time is valid and move on.

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Was this a designated disabled badge holder bay?

If not, then according to this payment is required notwithstanding the display of a BB:

Car Park and Street Rules

Designated Bays: Free parking is restricted to 4 hours and requires a valid Blue Badge shown clearly.

Standard Bays: Normal tariffs apply if a Blue Badge holder parks in a standard, non-disabled bay in council car parks.


It was not. The designated bays were all taken so parked in a normal bay. The driver has done this before without problem.

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Hi All,

Hoping for some advice, the driver parked in a car park, but put the blue badge faced down. They rightly got a ticket, but was wondering if there are any chance of appealing on maybe compassionate grounds?

The Blue badge book is the badge and clock, but as it happens this morning before parking, the driver managed to accidently split the 2. As a result, the clock was facing correct, but the badge itself was face down. They were parked in a normal bay with the badge (incorrectly) displayed as they normally do.

The driver upon returning to the vehicle, realised their mistake, and took pictures with the badge corrected (in the hopes to show that the badge was valid and it was a silly mistake).

Google maps link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bobby+Moore+Way+Car+Park/@51.5354388,0.0786726,21z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x47d8a776e458a943:0x1ea56c06428baabb!8m2!3d51.5354831!4d0.0788533!16s%2Fg%2F11gv0ptf31?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDcyOS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D




PCN:






How the badge was before:






Pictures driver took with the badge corrected:









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Private parking tickets / Re: Final reminder from Smart Parking
« on: March 26, 2026, 04:17:10 pm »
Thank you - I will advise them to wait

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Private parking tickets / Re: Final reminder from Smart Parking
« on: March 26, 2026, 02:39:41 pm »
I have no magic bullet to offer you.

I did look on Google Streetview and there appear to be prominent signs limiting free parking to one hour, and terms and conditions referring to £90 if exceeded, although I can’t read all the words. A defence has to be better than “we forgot”, and could hinge on poor signage, for example, but I’m not seeing that myself.

Without more information I don’t think I can help any further.

That's fair enough, thanks for looking. Is there a way however to reduce the charge to the original amount on the basis that this is the first letter they have received regarding it? The £145 charge is written as escalated.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Final reminder from Smart Parking
« on: March 26, 2026, 12:44:59 pm »
They said that they visited the car park and overstayed by an hour without realising. They did not receive the earlier letters - this is the first they received.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Final reminder from Smart Parking
« on: March 26, 2026, 11:27:26 am »
If they ignore, they are likely to get debt collection letters from DCBL, a Letter of Claim from DCB Legal and a county court claim. If the court claim is ignored they will get a default judgement against them.

If they have more information and a defence then they will get assistance here.

However,if so, they should post directly rather than use you as an intermediary.

They are not very technology friendly so they asked me for help. What information do you require? What are their next steps?

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Private parking tickets / Final reminder from Smart Parking
« on: March 26, 2026, 11:02:01 am »
Hi all. I have been approached by a friend as they received a ticket in the post from Smart parking (attached). From what I gather, they have not contacted them at all. They are unsure if this is the first time they are receiving this or if they have received these before (its a busy house and they are rarely home). It is my understanding that as long as they don't identify the driver, they are ok? Do they even need to reply?


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Won on the blue plate.  ;D

A huge thank you for all your efforts! This was certainly an interesting case for me — it stretched on for a while over a year but valuable and insightful nonetheless. Hippocrates you are the man!

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Do you want representation?

Apologies I have been away for a few days after a hospital visit gone bad. Yes please that would be really appreciated. Ordinarily I wouldn't mind giving it a go, but I really don't understand the reasonings, let alone how to argue them.

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The hearing has been scheduled for 13th November.

This should be interesting but I am a bit nervous as to what I should say

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I say Tribunal time.

I have logged on thee tribunal site to appeal.


For this one I assume I have to put in moving traffic (including junction box) contravention

and for this one I The contravention alleged by the authority on the penalty charge notice did not occur.

For the reasoning, I will apply what H C Anderson provided:
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1. It is restricted to term-time only: then the council need to obtain the SoS's authorisation to a non-prescribed sign. But they haven't, because the only prescribed sign is every week, term time or not.

2. The restriction isn't term time only, which is what's conveyed by the advance sign. In which case IMO the signage fails the LATOR test because in combination those in the know might be tempted to drive into the area outside 'term time' but still be breaching the traffic order's prohibition.

Should I also add that there was no warning signs on the way to the road to be safe?

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