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Ooh, I see now. Well at least I think I do.

The extra two pages are just copy pasted from the tribunal site, in a sense, and Islington made no attempt at explaining it properly.

So your original draft is okay to send?

Can nothing be said about the mismatch of the PCN timings?

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These 2 pages. I'm sorry, I didn't realise they might be relevant. But I should know better by now.




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Just to clarify, I did leave out 2 pages from my post, only because I thought they may not be relevant.

I can post them here, in case they contradict the argument you've made.

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Thank you tincombe.

How did you find the code??

Edit: nevermind, I reread what you said, and feel a bit stupid now.

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Looking at the all the pages they've sent for this, I don't think they sent a verification code this time for the tribunal.

Does this mean I need to do it via post?

Argh! This is what I get for leaving it so last minute.

Edit: I've submitted reps again on the PCN portal, asking them for a verification code, and to consider my previous reps again.

Status changed to on hold, and email confirming as such.

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Is there nothing to be said on the PCN observation time being wrong?

Happy to take it tribunal, because I lost the discount anyway.

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Hi. I got a response from the council on the 27th of July, which I am posting below.

I know I've left it very late.

I also can't seem to find the page that would have the code to take it to tribunal, if I've lost it, is there anyway to recover or find it?

Thank you all in advance, as always.





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Hi everyone.

So it's been a while with this case, and I haven't heard anything back from the London Tribunal. Would they have emailed me, or posted a letter?

The latest on PCN history is as follows:

01 May 2026
On Hold : SUS40 - Statutory Declaration
Receipt
N/A

21 April 2026
On Hold: SUS40 - Statutory Declaration
Receipt
N/A

20 March 2026
Notice of Debt Registration Issued
A debt has been registered and an Order for Recovery has been issued.

20 March 2026
Debt Registration Accepted
The PCN has progressed and TfL has received authority to register a debt against this vehicle.

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@tincombe.

Thank you, I used what you gave, filled in the details, and modified it for a little more accuracy. Thank you very much.

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This situation is worsened because, even during their active hours, I believe the bays are sometimes used without issue by council staff for their personal vehicles i.e. not liveried or 'council' vehicles.

Then I suggest you turn this round:
This situation is worsened because the bays are used by council liveried vehicles. I understand why this 'council vehicle' exemption(against a prevailing restriction) might be desirable when they are operational e.g. street cleaning, highway works, meals-on-wheels etc. but it is surely not the council's intention to create an overflow car park for the Brewery Road depot which effectively robs fee-paying permit holders of the opportunity to park legitimately.

Thank you, very, very much!  :D


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Thank you so much!

I will edit and submit this (or my wife will at least).

The council vehicles have Islington decals on them.

They have a "base" on Brewery Road. But despite having their own parking yard, they seem to use all the resident bays.

I've been told by a CEO they are to only use the IS-D business bays, but that doesn't happen. Well it does, but they overflow onto the permit bays.

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RK is my missus. If I remember correctly, this ones on her (for once).

The pay and display begins at 9.30AM according to the signboards.

Many of the the permit holder bays in IS-D are taken up by Islington's own vans (a lot of which are diesels, which I find hypocritical).

They take up the bays day and night. Many of the residents complain, but do nothing. Including myself.

I don't mind getting my wife to resubmit the old reps. Just looking to go tribunal in the hopes I can get something.

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No reps made against NTO yet. Was wondering on what grounds to submit reps.

Should I just submit my original appeal again?

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Hi guys,

I received the NTO for this PCN recently. I've left it a bit late to upload, I know. Sorry.

Is there any grounds I could appeal on and go to tribunal, since it's at the higher price now anyway?

Thank you as usual.

NTO Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

Page 4

Page 5

Page 6

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The signage shown in the council's response is 0.3miles. Which according to Google maps is a 6min walk, therefore 12mins there and back.

Owing to the 0 minute observation time. Someone traveling to and from that sign in order to check the timings, would have found themselves with a PCN anyway.

I appealed again along those grounds.

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