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I think you'd be on very strong grounds if you can find a location where the same council have stacked these 2 signs that you could show to an adjudicator.

@Grant_Urismo you make some very good points - Portland Place (s/b) j/o Devonshire Street springs to mind re stacked signs. There are several other examples in Central London but I can’t think of any others on Westminster’s roads.

Back to Aldwych... the only fly in the ointment is the markings in the centre of the junction with Wellington Street and the various Orders that exist for that junction.

Well done


2240246685, I presume.

Correct...

@DrSatan I'm impressed that you managed to dig-out the order so quickly.

This is very helpful but in 2017 when the order was made, the NRT sign was not in place. Having read the order, it's not clear to me what 'island sites' actually means. If 'island sites' relates to the area of road reserved for buses turning onto Waterloo Bridge - then where's the exemption for buses and cycles? In 2022 (or slightly earlier) the markings were changed and the Aldwych Scheme was completed (with a new NRT sign).

I'll try and dig out the new TMO covering the Aldwych Scheme and see if it extends to this junction.

@DrSatan, thanks for the prompt reply.

Hi everyone,

Sorry I'm a bit late here. I'm currently researching Mandatory Cycle Lanes. Can anyone provide an update/result on this case please?

I'd be interested to know whether this 'lane' falls within the definition of 'cycle track' provided by the Highways Act 1980 s329.

Regards,
John.

Thanks. For completeness I’ve posted the PCN and a photo of the relevant signage.

The main question here may have been misunderstood. The signage at this location comprises (on the near-side of the road) a post with three separate signs:
1. School Streets
2. No motor vehicles
3. School Term Time

1 and 3 are non-compliant; 2 is a ‘special authorisation’ under s64 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.

Re sign 2: s73 and Sch7 of 2004 Act (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/section/73) specifies signs that can be used to create a ‘moving traffic contravention’. The 2004 Act doesn’t mention ‘special authorisations’ so if this were outside London, although sign 2 is compliant - I do not believe the PCN would stand as the sign falls outside the scope of the 2004 Act. Correct?

Section 73 commenced in England in 2007:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/2053/made

But this is inside London and the 2003 Act applies. So for peace of mind, I would like to find:
(a) in which order/regs London is excluded from s73 2004 Act (if at all)? and
(b) whether there are any other orders/regs that exclude ‘special authorisations’ under the 2003 Act? and if not
(c) whether there are any limitations at all on traffic signs to be used for moving traffic contraventions in London?

Any further comments would be greatly appreciated, particularly regarding the wording on the PCN and NoR.

The London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003 provides a framework for enforcement authorities in London to issue PCNs for moving traffic contraventions. Parts of this Act are earmarked for repeal in the Traffic Management Act 2004. The 2004 Act also sets-out a framework for enforcement authorities (including those in London I believe) to issue PCNs. The 2004 Act provides a slightly different definition of moving traffic contravention to the 2003 Act – the 2003 Act appearing to capture a wider range of traffic signs.

Where a PCN has been issued in London under the 2003 Act, does the 2004 Act also apply?

My understanding is that the 2003 Act takes precedence here, but that doesn’t explain why there appears to be two definitions of moving traffic contravention running concurrently. Is anyone able to explain this please?

Thanks in anticipation.