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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
« on: Today at 08:23:16 am »
Quote from: Goretechre on Yesterday at 08:39:17 am
Does this mean they've rejected the representation?
I have no idea, you'll have to wait for the letter to come in the post. Alternatively, you could call them and see if they can email you a copy.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Redbridge Council - Parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
« on: Today at 08:20:30 am »
Outcome.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
« on: Yesterday at 11:08:26 am »
Outcome.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN HN71513688
« on: March 18, 2025, 10:47:31 pm »
To set your expectations, the council will almost certainly refuse and you will then need to appeal to London Tribunals, it's only at the tribunal that you get a fair hearing.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no response, now Enforcement notice received
« on: March 18, 2025, 06:19:31 pm »
@Razz while H C Andersen is not wrong, there's a much quicker and easier way to deal with this. We know a notice of rejection was issued on 6 February, because the TFL website says so:



In the circumstances, the quickest and easiest way to deal with this is to file an out of time appeal with London Tribunals.

The first step is to make a subject access request to dpo@tfl.gov.uk asking for a copy of the notice of rejection to be emailed to you, remember you will need to attach either a copy of your ID or proof of address. You don't need to get the response before you can file an appeal, but it's best to get the ball rolling just in case you need it later.

In the meantime I'll drop you a PM in case you'd like me to help you with the out of time application to the tribunal. Assuming the tribunal agrees to consider the case, the email from the tribunal confirming that your appeal will be heard has the effect of cancelling the charge certificate, and this saves you having to faff about with TEC, or going to have forms sworn, or waiting for weeks and weeks for TEC to process them and then for TFL to refer the case to the tribunal.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
« on: March 18, 2025, 06:09:04 pm »
The Key Events tab of the council website indicates something was issued for ZN15688510 today:



For ZN15754400, ZN15760640, ZN15709461, ZN15795237, ZN15720759 & ZN15730118 representations are still in the queue for consideration. The longer they take, the better it is. If they go much over 90 days, that gives you an additional ground of appeal on the basis of Paul Richard Davis v The Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea (1970198981, 30 March 1998).

In the meantime can you tell us what these further letters to & from the council for ZN15688510 might be?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: TfL Penalty Charge Notice (GX19416962) Appealed, no response, now Enforcement notice received
« on: March 18, 2025, 01:00:20 pm »
As above, you need to show us the actual PCN and all other paperwork you have received. This might be an easy one but you're very short on time, so please try and get back to us today.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey 52M PCN ( Cornwall Road N15 - LTN Multiple PCN'S )
« on: March 18, 2025, 12:43:01 pm »
@Goretechre it's really easy to check the PCN history on the council website, if you give me the PCN number and number plate I can do this for you.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
« on: March 17, 2025, 11:28:07 pm »
All litigation carries an element of risk, but you have a very strong case. There is a payment mechanism provided by the authority that simply did not work and the council is trying to penalise you for that, most adjudicators would allow the appeal in those circumstances.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
« on: March 17, 2025, 11:14:46 pm »
Quote from: Y H on March 17, 2025, 11:05:54 pm
What do you mean by notice to owner?
If you've received an informal rejection, the next step in the process is for the council to send you a notice to owner, which goes to the registered keeper at the address held by DVLA. You can then make a formal representation (assuming you're the registered keeper) and if that representation is rejected, you can appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN HN71513688
« on: March 17, 2025, 10:06:06 pm »
In the circumstances all you can really do is submit a representation stating that the alleged contravention did not occur. Send it online and take a times / dated screenshot of the confirmation page.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Newcastle City Council - Code 73 - PCN because payment machine wasnt working so paid only on way out - Eldon square
« on: March 17, 2025, 09:05:04 pm »
Honestly I don't think you need to ask the council anything, you have two paper receipts and their logs, as well as the bank saying they have no record of the transactions. In the circumstances it would be for the council to explain to the tribunal why this isn't their fault. You just need to let us know once you get the notice to owner.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Hillingdon council 31J - Entering stopping box junction PCN HN71513688
« on: March 16, 2025, 10:46:16 pm »
Quote from: mairajbhaii on March 16, 2025, 10:19:49 pm
Its only this 1 page
Are you saying the back of that is blank?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Bromley council. Charge Certif. PCN code 27, parked on Albemarle road blocked with flower pot.no sig
« on: March 16, 2025, 06:09:46 pm »
Quote from: Justicenow on March 16, 2025, 01:57:50 pm
Would the same procedure with the charge certificate and order for recovery still followed after this stage of review?
No it does not, the council has 56 days to serve a response and if the response is a notice of rejection, you then have 28 days to pay the full penalty or appeal to the tribunal.

When exactly did you submit the formal representation?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Brent Council; Code 32d failing to drive in direction of arrow; TFL; Edgware Road
« on: March 16, 2025, 06:55:16 am »
DNC'ed.

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