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NIP Details and Circumstances

What is the name of the Constabulary? - Metropolitan Police

Date of the offence: - 27/03/2024

Date of the NIP: - 03/04/2024

Date you received the NIP: - 04/04/2024

Location of offence (exact location as it appears on the NIP: important): - A20 Eastbound, West of Sandy Lane to East of Cookham Road (48114821)

Was the NIP addressed to you? - Yes

Was the NIP sent by first class post, second class or recorded delivery? - 1st

If your are not the Registered Keeper, what is your relationship to the vehicle? - My vehicle

How many current points do you have? - 0 (but I have a NIP for 25mph in a 20mph zone due to be replied to, AND a I had a previous 25mph-in-a-20mph-zone for which I did the awareness course last year)



I'm reeling. I'm 49 years old - been driving for thirty years without any speeding offences and now I've got 3 within 12 months!  With the two live NIPs, will they be combined at court? Is it worth me pleading for lenience as a person who has a 30 year clear record and has switch to primarily checking the streets and not sat nav (which I was doing in error for all three tickets) and switched from Google maps to Wazes as a result of these?


 
I gather that "A20 Eastbound, West of Sandy Lane to East of Cookham Road" is infamous. It has gone from 70mph, to 50, to 40! There has been lots of noise about the new signage not being clear enough or people not being adequately alerted to the most recent change (the rouge/'unauthorised'50mph was removed before my ticket though). I don't know if these have any basis in law...
 


Again, I've have been relying to much on sav navs' which are not up to date. 



https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/police-to-push-on-with-a20-speeding-fines-despite-fake-sig-301685/

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/24078266.a20-eastbound-sidcup-leads-dozens-speeding-fines/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c84nqxvvq37o



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I got a ticket in July 2023 for doing 25mph in the 20 zone about half a mile from my home on the A23 (I've lived here six years and the 20mhp zone (it was introduction in the last couple of years). I did the driver awareness course. 



I just got another (a mile further down the road for travelling at 25mph). I realised that (and I don't think this is any defence) Google maps, which I used to drive everywhere, directed that it was 30mph. It is odd that it's a 20mph because it's a wide busy two lane road with no schools etc. 



I need to reply to the NIP soon. Can I avoid points?



Thank you for any advice

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Hello

PCN just arrived in the post from the London Borough of Merton £130 or £65 reduced charge.


Going against me:
I have entered before the exit was clear.
The back of my car / back wheels were in the box for at least 30 seconds

For me:
I wasn't causing an obstruction . was almost clear of the box.
Due me being pretty much out of the box (I thought I was out of it enough) I didn't think it necessary to move to the lane on the right which DID have room for me (lesson learnt - next time I will move to the right if there is space!).

Is it worth appealing? Is there any precedent?

Thank you for any advice.

Video (me with the roof rack):
https://youtu.be/RpnLiq-Lu6g

Image (me with the roof rack):







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