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No of course not but I do not want to be in a position that in 5.5 years time I will forget about it and then they issue N1SDT Claim Forms to an address I do not reside anymore or what if I am abroad etc. Keeping their lawfirm updated of mywhereabouts is not ideal so I would prefer this gets resolved/closed.

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Hi @cp8759 & @Incandescent,

Further to the post from yesterday I just got the below letter from the council acknowledging my Revoking Order.

Revoking Order


They have also enclosed a copy of the rejection notice that was “posted” to me in November 2024. This is bullshit as the rejection notice for other PCNs arrived together, but this one didn’t? They also never responded to my online submission with the same appeal AND never provided a copy when I asked for it under the Subject Access Request back in late December/January. Not to mention that I was checking the fee amount online troughtout that period and it went down to £65, but from £130 it went up to £195 during that time. So what they are saying just doesn’t add up and not to mention that all of a sudden they found the rejection notice…..

Copy of the Rejection


I have until 19th of June 2025 if I wish to pay the reduced £65 GBP but this has caused so much heartache and effort that I would like to ask for help with appealing this to the tribunal. Is this something you can help me with? What do you need from me.

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@b789 - Thank you for taking the time to explain the process in detail, as this helps me with understanding what to expect.

That said they had issued me 2 LoC back in Jan as per Reply #13 on: January 08, 2025, 06:20:37 pm in this very post [it's on page 1]. I never responded to them and it's been well over 30 days now. So do I just leave it or ask them to issue 1SDT Claim Form?

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Hi @b789,

It's been over 150 days since those letters were sent, but nothing informing me that they applied for CCJ. Have they just decided not to or is it more likely that royal mail just never delievered it.

I run the trustonline.org.uk search in the past and it showed nothing but paying £6 each time is getting a bit ridiculous. That said I do not wish to have CCJ on my credit file only because Royal Mail might have not delivered the post. Is there any way to check if they did anything on this or ensure that all court all notifications are done via e-mail?

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Hi @b789,

I hope all is well.

Do you know how long this allocation will take? It's been 3 months since I got that confirmation of mediation from the court that I attended the mediation, and I have had 0 correspondence since.

I am worried that I am going to miss something here.

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Hi @cp8759 & @Incandescent,

I hope you are both well.

I just checked and the fine is showing as £65 GBP. I do not know when it was changed nor have I had any correspondence from the council and it has been almost 4 weeks since I got the confirmation from the court that I uploaded in my previous post.

What do I need to do now? Still just wait?

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Got it so I do not need to do anything? Like resend my representation or? Now we just wait until they get in touch. Presumably, they will notify me.

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Hi @cp8759 & @Incandescent,

I hope you are both well.

I have submitted my PE3 form as 13 days ago on Tue 29 Apr, 21:59, and got an auto response/acknowledgment e-mail.

Now I got the below letter from the court.

Postimage servers are down so I uploaded this the letter here as an attachment.

Is this also just an acknowledgment. It just says that the statutory declaration has been filled and (not cancelled) and to get in touch with the council.

What do I need to do now?

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Thanks, I saw people defending this successfully, so I hope this can be defended. I will get back to you in DM.

If you think it's too much hassle, then I would just pay the £65.

Is that e-mail I drafted sufficient to be sent?

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Hi @cp8759 & @Incandescent,

3 courts later and I managed to get this witness signed, please see the picture below.



I have also drafted an email to tec@justice.gov.uk below, please let me know if this needs any amendments. I wasn’t sure if I should add My appeal as pdf to the below e-mail?


_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

TO: tec@justice.gov.uk
CC: MYEMAIL@gmail.com
Subject: PN76007402 - Completed and Witnessed PE3 Form

Dear Sirs,

Please find attached my completed and witnessed PE3 form for your attention.

PCN number: PN76007402
Vehicle Registration Mark: HK67XBM
Applicant: London Borough of Newham
Location of contravention: Royal Albert Way E16 / Gallions Roundabout E16
Date of contravention: 19/10/2024

Kindly confirm receipt of this document at your earliest convenience. Should you require any further information or clarification to process this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Thank you for your assistance.

Yours faithfully,
My Name
My Bristol and London Address

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Also, what is going to happen next? This gets allocated presumably to a court and then I have to go and appeal it? How will I know what to say?

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Hi @cp8759 & @Incandescent,

Thanks for getting back to me and I will get the PE3 witnessed by someone at the court. I will ask around at the Stratford Magistrates' Court and Family Court as I am sure they do these a lot there given how awful Newham council is. If not then I will go to the Royal Courts of Justice and ask around there.

With regards to the form itself, I had printed a blank one months ago in anticipation of needing to do this, so now I will fill it in identically to how they’ve posted it. Once I have it all signed I will post a quick picture to confirm all good before sending over to tec@justice.gov.uk.

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Thank you for your prompt response @cp8759.

I have 1 quick question on the following "If you get an Order for Recovery and a printed PE3 form before you have emailed the sworn PE3 form to TEC, you should fill it in, get it sworn and email it to the tec mailbox as soon as possible."

I do not physically have the copy as this was posted to Bristol and I am in London today.

My 2 questions:
1. Can't I just print one from the internet and have this witness and then submitted? Or does it have to be the one the issued?
2. Do I need to get the justice of the peace to witness the Order for Recovery too?

As soon as I have your confirmation, I will go to the Stratford Magistrates' Court and Family Court and ask for a justice of the peace appointment.

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Hi @cp8759,

I hope you are well.

You are correct in saying that there is no point in going back and forwards with the council. That said I do have proof of sending both the physical and electric copies, which I kept just in case I do need to use is/show it in court. Everything is in this thread as a backup too.

Quick update on the 3 from 2021 - Barking Rd/ Opp Oak Crescent :
#4 PN62628875
#5 PN62645400
#6 PN62647643

Nothing has changed here, these are still showing as £195 GBP and after 4 years it was still not registered. I might make that complaint to move this along.
Now, the Royal Albert Way E16 & Gallions Rd i.e. the main one.

On the 6th of January I have received the below letter from the council suggesting to reach out if I am struggling financially to pay the £195 GBP. This is fully documented in my Reply #6 on from January 08, 2025, 05:48:16 pm.

Fast forward to now and I just got the letter (issued 22nd of April 2025) from the court saying that the debt has been registered.

Here is the Letter:


Here is the updated price to £205.


I read through the options and it looks like the “2. You made representations about the penalty charge to the local authority concerned within 28 days of service of notice to owner / Enforcement Notice / Penalty Charge Notice and you did not receive a rejection notice.” option is the one applicable here. Thus my questions:
1.   Which process do I need to follow now?
2.   And if I need to go to court to get this witnessed signed which court London court can I go to?
a.   Commissioner for Oaths/Officer Of the Court appointed by the Judge to take affidavits/Justice of the Peace – do I just ask for one in any court?
3.   What else do I need to do?

As always, your help is greatly appreciated.

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Hi @cp8759,

Thank you for your prompt response and understood.

Before making the formal complaint, should I follow up with them regarding the information request they simply ignored?

As you may recall, I have reached out to them to get a copy of their response for my appeal but they never sent one nor sent me the copy (even though they provided copies for the other 3).

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Hi @cp8759,

I hope all is well.

Quote
I think we can't really do anything until the 30 January deadline has expired.

Unsurprisingly the council has never responded to my request for information.

They have never registered this debt either. All 4 of the below PCNs are still showing as £195.

#1 PN75748188 – paid and case closed
#2 PN75748213 – paid and case closed
#3 PN76007402 – This is what the post is about re Albert Way
#4 PN62628875 – never knew about this until they mentioned it in the e-mail when dealing with #1 and #2 as council sent it to a wrong address.
#5 PN62645400 – never knew about this until they mentioned it in the e-mail when dealing with #1 and #2 as council sent it to a wrong address.
#6 PN62647643 – never knew about this until they mentioned it in the e-mail when dealing with #1 and #2 as council sent it to a wrong address.

I am honestly not sure how to handle this now. I am worried that leaving this will come back and bite me in the future but also don’t want to necessary force them to handle this and just wait the 6 years until the statutory limitation is up.

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