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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro car park fines - old address
« on: Yesterday at 11:22:05 pm »
The costs will eventually escalate to around £250. However, if you defend, they will eventually discontinue.

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Are you saying that you were not at the location for the duration they claim? If so, this is what is known as a "double dip" where the first exit and the second entry ANPR photos have been "orphaned".

However, there's also a possibility that the signs say that there's a minimum time before you can return. You will need to get some photos of the signs and show us.

A "double dip" is a failure by the operator to perform the necessary quality control checks on the ANPR images, which is a breach of the PPSCoP section 7.3(d) and therefore also means that the operator has breached their KADOE contract.

For now, show us some photos with the terms of parking on them. If it is a case of a "double dip", this sits best dealt with by a formal complaint rather than an appeal. Also, it warrants a DVLA complaint as the operator will have breached the KADOE contract and obtained your Keeper data unlawfully.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Euro car park fines - old address
« on: Yesterday at 10:27:45 pm »
Just do the data rectification notice as advised. I twirl be too late to appeal if you've started to receive debt recovery letters. You can safely ignore all DRP and any other debt collector letters.

Eventually, you will receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) which must be responded to. After that you will receive a claim and that definitely has to be responded to. We can provide a suitable defence.

As long as an ECP claim that is issued by DCB Legal is defended, it will eventually be struck out or discontinued, as long as the advice is followed.

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Is there any chance you can get some photos of the location where you parked? If it was an accessible bay, it would be worthwhile getting some pictures of any signs there. There has to be a sign with the terms and conditions that is readable from within the vehicle. Many operators do not comply with this requirement.

However, the PN is not about the blue badge. It is because the vehicle was parked fro longer than the permitted period free parking. The fact that the driver required more time due to a protected characteristic, is a good appeal point.

Also, the Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with all the requirements of PoFA to be able to hold the Keeper liable and they have no idea who the driver is, unless you, the Keeper, tells them. As there is no legal obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver, you should not do so. Only refer to the driver in the third person. No "I did this or that", only "the driver did this or that".

As any initial appeal will be rejected, no matter what the circumstances, it is not worth wasting much effort on that. However, the rejection must contain a POPLA code which will be valid for 33 days from the date of the appeal rejection.

For now, I suggest you appeal along the following lines:

There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPA has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

When the appeal rejection comes through, you will be able to appeal to POPLA where a fuller argument can be made.

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Take into consideration the fact that IAS is a waste of time and effort. At some point, Gemini may decide to issue a debt claim which can be easily defended.

In most cases, a claim never reaches the point of an actual hearing as the majority are either struck out or discontinued. The very few that make it all the way are usually won.

You have to decide whether you want to fight this all the way, especially as you feel the PCN has been issued unfairly. If you do, then you can ignore all debt recovery letters as they are powerless to actually do anything except to scare the low-hanging fruit to pay up out of ignorance and fear.

Come back if/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) and we can advise further. To date I don't think we've seen a single Gemini PCN go as far as an LoC.

Here is a link to an identical PCN at the same location that ended up being cancelled:

Gemini Parking Solutions - Gunnersbury Park

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Private parking tickets / Re: NtK - Euro Car Parks
« on: Yesterday at 09:23:34 pm »
Please stop referring to it as a "fine". A poxy, ex-clamper, unregulated private parking company is not an 'authority' of any kind that can issue "fines" or "penalties".

It is nothing more than a speculative invoice for an alleged breach of contract by the driver. Do not dignify them with the idea that their PCN is a "fine".

As for the failure to "invite" the Keeper to pay the charge, there can be no implied obligation. They either invite the Keeper to pay or they don't. In this case, they don't.

Many operators include something like this to overcome the issue:

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You are now invited to:

(i) Pay the charge; or
(ii) Provide the drivers name and address for service and pass this notice to them.

They have chosen not to do this.

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Copy and paste the following as your response to the operators evidence:

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1. Failure of the operator to issue a Notice to Keeper

The operator claims they issued a “reminder Notice to Keeper” after obtaining DVLA data, but they have not supplied a copy of this document in their evidence pack. There is also no record of any original Notice to Keeper (NtK) being issued before that. Under PoFA, a parking operator can only hold the registered keeper liable for a parking charge if they serve a valid NtK within strict statutory timeframes and containing all the required information.

In this case, the operator first issued a Notice to Driver (NtD), and the registered keeper then submitted an appeal using the operator’s internal process. The operator rejected that appeal and confirmed that the internal process had ended. However, they did not issue a formal NtK before or after that stage, only stating in their evidence pack that a “reminder” was sent. A reminder is not a substitute for a PoFA-compliant NtK.

PoFA Paragraph 6(1)(a) states that if an NtD has been given, then the NtK must be served not less than 28 days and not more than 56 days after the alleged parking event. It must also include specific mandatory information as set out in Paragraph 8 of PoFA. Without a valid NtK that meets all these conditions, the operator has no legal basis to hold the keeper liable.

As no NtK has been produced and no evidence has been submitted to show that one was ever issued in the correct form or timeframe, the operator cannot rely on PoFA. Therefore, liability cannot transfer from the unidentified driver to the registered keeper, and the appeal must be allowed.

2. Failure to evidence an entrance sign defining the boundary of the private land

There is no entrance signage shown anywhere in the operator’s evidence pack. This is a serious omission, especially given that the appeal specifically raised the lack of entrance signage as a key reason why no contract could have been formed with the driver.

Under Section 3.1.1 of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) and section 19.2 of the BPA CoP (v9), it is a mandatory requirement that operators place a clear and prominent entrance sign at the entry point to the land they are managing. This sign must inform drivers that they are entering private land and that terms and conditions apply. Without such a sign, a driver cannot be expected to know they are entering a controlled area or that they may be entering into a contract by remaining on the land.

In this case, the location is not a traditional car park but a residential road with no ground markings or clear boundaries. This makes proper entrance signage even more important. If the driver entered what appears to be an ordinary residential street with no clear notice at the entry point, they would have no reasonable opportunity to know that private parking terms applied.

The operator has submitted only isolated images of signs placed somewhere within the site. These are not dated, not mapped, and not shown in context. There is no visual evidence of a sign at the point of entry to the site, and no indication that the driver would have seen or had the chance to read any terms before stopping or parking.

The absence of an entrance sign means that no contract can have been formed, and the driver was not adequately informed of any terms or charges. This is a breach of both the BPA CoP (v9) and the PPSCoP which undermines any claim that the parking charge is enforceable. The appeal should be upheld on this basis alone.

3. Failure to evidence that any contract could have been formed

The NtD issued by the operator does not evidence any breach of contract because it fails to show that the vehicle was parked for a period of time that exceeds the minimum consideration period required under the PPSCoP.

The NtD simply states an “observation time” of 14:01 and an “issue time” of 14:04. This shows only that the vehicle was present for a total of three minutes. Under Section 5.1 of the PPSCoP, a driver must be allowed a minimum consideration period of at least five minutes from entering the site before a Parking Charge Notice may be issued. This time is intended to allow drivers to locate, read, and understand the terms and conditions displayed on signs before deciding whether to accept them and remain on the land.

The operator has not provided any evidence that the vehicle remained on site beyond this minimum period. Without proof that the vehicle was parked beyond the minimum consideration period, no breach of contract can be established.

Additionally, courts have confirmed in decisions such as Brennan v Premier Parking Solutions (2023) that a single snapshot or short time period is not enough to show parking, particularly where the vehicle may have stopped only briefly to assess the terms or turn around.

As the NtD does not show any period of parking, and only records a 3-minute window, it fails to satisfy the evidential burden required to establish a breach. The operator has therefore failed to show that a contract was ever accepted and breached, and the parking charge is unenforceable on this basis.

4. Rebuttal to Operator’s Agreement – Lack of Sufficient Evidence of Landowner Authority

The operator includes a document titled "Car Park Management Agreement" in their evidence pack and seeks to rely on it as proof of their authority to operate and enforce parking charges at Mill Parc, Isleworth. However, this agreement does not meet the evidential requirements set out in Section 14 of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (version 1.1, dated 17 February 2025).

The agreement is between Spring Parking Ltd and Proxima GR Properties Ltd c/o Firstport Property Services Ltd. It includes a generic statement that the client "confirms that it has authority from the site owners" to contract out car park management. However, no evidence has been provided to prove that Proxima GR or Firstport is the landowner or has been granted the necessary legal authority by the landowner to authorise parking enforcement on this site. There is no lease, deed of appointment, or written authority from the landholder confirming the capacity in which the client is acting.

Furthermore, the agreement has been signed by an individual whose name is printed, but no job title or position is given. This omission raises doubt as to whether the individual was authorised to bind the client company in this matter.

Section 14 of the Code requires operators to have written authorisation from the landholder or a person acting with the authority of the landholder. That authorisation must confirm the identity of the site, the duration of the contract, and the ability of the operator to issue parking charges. Crucially, it must also be clear that the person signing the agreement has the appropriate authority. The absence of supporting documents and the failure to identify the signatory's position mean that the operator has not discharged the burden of proof in this regard.

In summary, the agreement included in the operator’s evidence pack is insufficient to demonstrate that they hold the necessary authority to manage and enforce parking at the location. It lacks any supporting evidence of landowner status or delegated authority, and the signatory’s role is unstated, making it impossible to verify whether the agreement has been validly executed. Given the requirements of Section 14 of the PPSCoP, the operator has failed to establish that it has the legal standing to pursue parking charges at this site. The appeal should therefore be allowed.

5. Rebuttal – Misrepresentation of Keeper Appeal

In the operator’s Case Summary, it is falsely stated that an “email appeal was received from the driver.” This is factually incorrect and misleading.

The appeal was explicitly submitted by the Registered Keeper, not the driver. The wording of the appeal clearly stated:

- “The Notice to Driver (NtD) was passed to me by the driver, and I am now submitting this appeal as the Keeper. I am providing my details as the Registered Keeper...”

The operator has chosen to disregard this clear and unambiguous statement and instead recorded the appellant as “the driver”, presumably to mislead the appeals process or to suggest that liability has been admitted. This is not only inaccurate but also undermines the operator’s credibility.

Moreover, the appeal expressly instructed the operator not to request the Keeper’s data from the DVLA, since it had already been voluntarily provided. The relevant extract from the appeal reads:

- “Since you now have my details, you must not request my data from the DVLA.
Any such request would be a breach of the UK GDPR and Data Protection Act 2018... and a misuse of the DVLA KADOE system...”

As the operator has subsequently requested the Keeper’s details from the DVLA, this constitutes unlawful processing under the UK GDPR and a breach of their KADOE contract with DVLA.

In light of the above, any assertion that the driver appealed or admitted liability must be dismissed. The operator’s misrepresentation in their evidence undermines the reliability of their case and supports the position that the charge must be cancelled.

It is under the 10,000 character limit for the webform.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Milton Country Park PCN
« on: Yesterday at 07:47:56 pm »
Whilst you are not the Keeper, as the Hirer, the exact same principles apply as in the other case. Any appeals must come ONLY from the Hirer and you only reference the Notice to Hirer (NtH) rather than the Notice to Keeper (NtK).

Only you know the identity of the driver and, as the Hirer, you are under no legal obligation to identify the driver to an unregulated private parking company.

You have added advantage that the vehicle is Hired/leased. ParkingEye have failed to comply with all the requirements of PoFA paragraph 14 which means that the Hirer cannot be liable. Also, because the location is not relevant land for the purposes of PoFA, the same condition applies... no Hirer liability.

All you need to do is follow the exact same steps as in the other thread.

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As the Keeper of the vehicle at the time, it is your responsibility to keep the creditor updated with your address for service if you move after receipt of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK). You haven't done so.

What you now need to do is as advised above and to send a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) to the DPO's of both UKCPM and BW Legal, instructing them to update their records with your current address for service and to erase your old address. The highlighted words are there for a reason, so use them.

You will have to provide some proof of address, so anything you have with your foreign address such as a utility bill or bank statement or anything else that is official and shows your name and address will do.

You can also respond to the Letter of Claim (LoC) with the following, assuming that both PCNs were for the same vehicle and location, just different dates:

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Dear Sirs,

Re: Your Letters Before Claim – PCN References: [Insert both references]

I write in response to your Letters Before Claim concerning two alleged parking charges involving the same vehicle and location, on different dates. These appear to relate to substantially the same cause of action. Please be advised that any attempt by your client to issue multiple court claims for matters that should properly be addressed within a single set of proceedings would constitute an abuse of process. You are formally put on notice that I require these matters to be consolidated into a single claim, and I will apply for sanctions and costs should your client disregard this requirement.

I confirm that my address for service at this time is as follows, and I request that any outdated address be erased from your records to ensure compliance with your data protection obligations:

[Insert full foreign address]

The Data Protection Officers of both your client and BW Legal have been sent separate Data Rectification Notices with the necessary evidence.

I am permanently resident outside the jurisdiction of the courts of England and Wales. Should your client wish to pursue a claim, it must follow the correct procedure for serving proceedings outside the jurisdiction under Part 6 of the Civil Procedure Rules. Any attempt to issue a claim to a UK address previously associated with me, in the knowledge that I have provided a valid overseas address for service, will be treated as a deliberate attempt to frustrate service and may result in an application to strike out any proceedings as improperly served or to set aside any default judgment. Costs will be sought on that basis.

As both Letters of Claim are non-compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and the Practice Direction – Pre-Action Conduct. They lack the detail required under paragraphs 3.1(a)-(d), 5.1, and 5.2 of the Protocol and fail to enclose the documents that must accompany a compliant Letter Before Claim.

Accordingly, I require your client to provide the following information and documents, without which I am unable to consider my position:

1. A clear explanation of the cause of action
2. Whether your client is pursuing me as the driver or the keeper
3. Full particulars of the alleged contraventions, including the times, duration of stay, and how the sum claimed has been calculated
4. A copy of the signage terms that are alleged to have been breached
5. Photographs of the vehicle allegedly in breach of those terms
6. A copy of the contract with the landowner authorising enforcement at the material time, in accordance with the PPSCoP
7. A site plan showing the placement of all signs
8. Photographs of the signage in situ at the time of the alleged events, showing legibility (font size, contrast, positioning, height)
9. A detailed breakdown of the original charge, any interest applied, and all additional costs
10. An explanation of the £70 ‘debt recovery’ fee — whether VAT is included, and if so, on what basis VAT is being charged
11. Clarification of whether the principal charge is alleged as a contractual fee (consideration) or damages for breach

If your client does not provide this information, I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Ltd v The Park West Club Ltd (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, and Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Ltd & Peter Dann Ltd [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c), and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claims or consider my position in relation to them. It would be entirely premature — and a waste of both costs and court time — for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so regardless, I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and request that the court order disclosure of the missing information and consider costs sanctions.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]

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Please host their evidence pack on DropBox or Google Drive. Without seeing their evidence, it is impossible to advise fully. How on earth are we supposed to know whether the contract they have evidenced is even valid?

You say they have stated that an email appeal was received from the "driver". Is that true or are they being mendacious?

The core of this appeal is that you, the Keeper have not identified the driver and because no NtK was issued, they cannot hold you liable.

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The response from Saba is legally flawed and confirms several clear breaches of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP), their KADOE obligations, and misrepresentation of PoFA.

Here is a follow-up that you can send back to Saba’s complaints address, with the purpose of:

• Refuting their misstatements,
• Reasserting the absence of Keeper liability,
• Reinforcing that the DVLA complaint has already been filed,
• Documenting that no appeal rejection or POPLA code was issued, and
• Putting Saba on notice of their ongoing breach.

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Subject: Misuse of Keeper Data and Breach of Code – Further to Formal Complaint

Dear Sirs,

Further to your recent response to my formal complaint dated [insert date of your complaint email], I must place on record my serious concern regarding the continued misuse of my personal data and your ongoing breach of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP), Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), and your DVLA KADOE obligations.

Your reply attempts to claim that you are entitled to pursue me as the registered keeper under PoFA, but that is plainly incorrect. You acknowledge that the site is owned by Transport for London, and even describe it as "the direct car park for the North Greenwich Station." As such, the land is not 'relevant land' for the purposes of Schedule 4 of PoFA, which excludes land subject to statutory control. There is no ambiguity here. This is not private land within the scope of PoFA and you are not entitled to invoke keeper liability.

Moreover, you admit that no penalty has been issued under railway byelaws and that you are pursuing a contractual Parking Charge only. Therefore, this PCN may only be pursued against the driver, not the registered keeper. You were informed of this in my original appeal dated 19 March 2025, and again when I declined your improper request to identify the driver. At no time have you issued a rejection or provided a POPLA code as required under:

• Clause 8.4.1(b) – requiring a response to appeals within 28 days,
• Annex C.1.1 – requiring access to the Appeals Service if the appeal is rejected.

Your failure to do so renders your escalation of the charge to ZZPS a further breach of the Code. The complaint to the DVLA Data Sharing Team has already been submitted and includes a supporting statement referencing your misuse of DVLA data. For the avoidance of doubt, that complaint relates not to your initial request, but to your continued unlawful processing and misuse of my keeper data in breach of the KADOE contract.

Your attempt to argue that there is no requirement to name the car park’s legal designation is a red herring. My appeal did not argue that your PCN was non-compliant for omitting a postcode; it clearly raised a jurisdictional issue — namely, that this is land subject to statutory control and therefore PoFA does not apply. You have failed to engage with this point or to provide any legal justification for continuing to pursue a registered keeper on such land.

You now claim you are "not reviewing [my] correspondence as an appeal," yet your earlier reply admitted to placing the charge on hold for seven days while requesting the driver's details. The PPSCoP makes clear that any correspondence raising issues about a PCN must be treated as an appeal or complaint — not ignored or arbitrarily diverted to a debt collector. There has been no lawful conclusion to the appeal process and no access to the appeals service has been offered.

I now require the following:

• Confirmation that the PCN is cancelled,
• Confirmation that ZZPS have been instructed to close the file,
• Written confirmation that my personal data is no longer being processed or shared in connection with this PCN,
• A formal explanation of why no POPLA code was ever issued.

If I do not receive a satisfactory response within 7 days, I will escalate this further to the BPA and pursue a complaint with the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) concerning misuse of my personal data.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[Date]

Did you send the DVLA complaint?

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The only recipients of a PCN for a hired vehicle that have gone on to pay it, have done so out of ignorance and fear. I have yet to see a single private parking operator that has managed to issue a Notice to Hirer (NtH) that complies with PoFA to be able to hold the Hirer liable for the charge.

They rely on the recipients of these notices being low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree.

hopefully the cost of the PCN doesn't go up by the time I receive it.

Statements such as the above, are clear signs of low-hanging fruit. Hopefully, now that you are here receiving advice, you will follow it and avoid paying a penny to ParkingEye or any other unregulated private parking company in the future.

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"I have regularly visited Gunnersbury Park for over four years to use the sports facilities, particularly for family badminton sessions, and have never previously been required to pay for parking."

"I booked and paid for badminton at the park’s sports centre for that time slot and can provide the booking confirmation as proof of legitimate use."

"I believe this shows that my use of the parking space was in line with the purpose of visiting the park and should be considered in the context of fairness."

"While I was not initially aware of the parking charge requirements, there were no clear instructions on how to pay for parking at the time of the alleged contravention."

If you have not referred to the driver in the third person and only said things like "I did this and that" rather than "the driver did this and that", then you have blabbed the drivers identity. End of and a wasted "golden ticket".

The driver is always liable. The Keeper can only be liable if the creditor has issued a notice that fully complies with all the requirements of PoFA. The Keeper is under no legal obligation to identify the driver, even if the Keeper was the driver. However, by not referring to the driver in the third person, the Keeper is basically admitting to being the driver and any Keeper protection from PoFA failures is in the bin.

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Typical of a firm of incompetent wannabe lawyers to respond like this. This type of correspondence from DCB Legal is a tactical attempt to dissuade you from pursuing your costs claim—a common approach, especially when they're aware their conduct may be scrutinised.

DCB Legal’s reliance on the general bar against costs in small claims is incomplete and misleading. They have omitted the critical exception under CPR 27.14(2)(g), which states:

"(g) a party has behaved unreasonably..."

You have already asserted (and the court has agreed to hear) that the Claimant’s failure to notify you of the discontinuance amounts to unreasonable behaviour.

Filing an N279 Notice of Discontinuance (NoD) does not equate to service. DCB Legal claims the NoD was both filed and served on 11 February 2025.

However, if you did not receive the NoD at the time, and only learned of the discontinuance by contacting the court yourself, then service was not effected.

Under CPR 6.3 and 6.20, serving a document means ensuring it actually reaches the party. The mere act of filing does not constitute service.

They must prove proper service (e.g. with a certificate of service or proof of postage), not merely assert it.

Their threat that you could be liable for their costs is hollow. The letter says “we will seek an Order from the Court that you will be liable for the cost of doing so.” In reality, you are not liable for the Claimant’s costs of opposing your request unless your behaviour was itself unreasonable, which it clearly isn’t. You are simply asking the court to exercise its discretion—a recognised and valid action.

This veiled threat is an intimidation tactic. The court is unlikely to entertain such a costs order against a litigant-in-person for pursuing a legitimate, scheduled costs-only hearing.

You should absolutely not withdraw your costs request. The court has already found there is a case worth considering, and that a hearing is justified.

Is DCB Legal’s letter truly “without prejudice”? No, not really. Their letter:

• Does not contain any offer to settle or concession.
• Is mainly a statement of position and a veiled attempt to persuade you to withdraw your costs application.

As such, it's arguably not covered by the without prejudice rule at all and may be "open correspondence" despite the heading. Courts look at substance over form, and if the contents are not truly part of settlement negotiations, the “without prejudice” label is ineffective.

The "without prejudice" rule protects genuine attempts to settle a dispute from being disclosed to the court. If a communication is truly “without prejudice,” it cannot be shown to the judge as evidence of liability, admissions, or concessions. It applies only when there is a genuine dispute and the party is making an offer or seeking to settle.

Their letter does not contain any offer to settle or concession. It is simply a statement of position and a veiled attempt to persuade you to withdraw your costs application. As such, it's arguably not covered by the without prejudice rule at all and may be "open correspondence" despite the heading. If the contents are not truly part of settlement negotiations, the “without prejudice” label is ineffective.

So, I suggest you respond to DCB Legal with the following:

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Subject: Re: [Claim Number] – Proposed Costs Settlement

Dear Sirs,

Thank you for your letter dated 14 May 2025, which I note is marked “without prejudice.”

In the interests of saving court time and assisting the overriding objective, I am prepared to accept a payment of £104.50 in full and final settlement of my costs application. If the Claimant agrees to this offer and payment is made promptly, I will notify the court and seek to vacate the hearing listed for 2nd September 2025.

For the avoidance of doubt, I do not accept your position that the Claimant has acted reasonably. The Claimant failed to serve the Notice of Discontinuance on me, and I only became aware of the discontinuance after contacting the court myself several weeks later. That omission has led to unnecessary time and effort on my part and is, in my view, unreasonable conduct under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

I would also point out that the use of the “without prejudice” label is inappropriate in this context, as your letter does not contain any offer or attempt to settle the matter. Rather, it is a statement of position accompanied by a threat of costs.

Courts have held that “mere statements of position” or refusals to settle do not attract without prejudice protection. In Unilever plc v The Procter & Gamble Co [2000] 1 WLR 2436, the Court of Appeal clarified that it is the substance—not the label—that determines whether a communication is protected.

Accordingly, I reserve the right to place your letter before the court as evidence of further unreasonable conduct by the Claimant.

This offer is open for 7 days, after which I will proceed to the hearing and seek the full amount, together with any additional reasonable expenses incurred in attending.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
[Your Address / Email if applicable]

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Private parking tickets / Re: Claim Form arriving too late
« on: Yesterday at 05:12:42 pm »
Please don't confuse DCBL with DCB Legal. Whilst related, they are very different arms of the same company and anything from DCBL can be safely ignored. However, anything from DCB Legal should not be ignored.

The letter you have received is as expected.

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

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