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At this stage IMO all you need is:

Contravention did not occur;
Procedural impropriety.

I rely upon my formal representations and will be submitting further representations upon receipt of the authority's evidence and to support my grounds of procedural impropriety.


As regards procedural impropriety(PI) this arises from the NOR which omits mandatory information. On this point, pl post the 'appeal form' and the 'guidance notes attached'.

So nothing additional like mentioned in my earlier post? Will the adjudicator have access to my evidence from my formal reps?

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I've populated as below. Any comments/guidance before I submit?





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You just need to register the appeal. Ask for a personal or telephone hearing.

You are not now making reps but putting forward a case to the adjudicator so you need a different approach/wording.

Thanks,

On the online portal, there are a couple of options to choose from. Which should I choose or does it make no difference?




It also asks why I am appealing - can I not put the blurb I have above in my earlier post?


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I am thinking of responding with the below and including the following evidence:

My receipt for shopping at the specific time
My ring video doorbell showing me leaving and returning back.

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I am making representation of parking ticket issued to my vehicle (PCN XXX) on 23 January 2025. The alleged contravention of “Parked without payment of the parking charge” did not occur, and I request that this Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) be cancelled based on the following grounds:

1.First Hour is Free: The parking terms at the location clearly state that the first hour of parking is free. A charge cannot be enforced for non-payment of a free parking period. I was within this free period at the time the PCN was issued.

2.Evidence of Parking Duration: I have additional supporting evidence from my Ring Video Doorbell, which captures timestamped images of my departure and return. These images confirm that my total parking duration was under 45 minutes, further reinforcing that I was within the free parking period.

3.Precedents from Similar Cases: Several independent adjudications have ruled in favour of appellants in comparable situations:

- Case Reference 2240496252 (Sham Choudhury v. London Borough of Redbridge): The adjudicator ruled that a PCN cannot be issued for failing to pay for a period that is free of charge.
- Case Reference 2240428886 (Ololade Oluyoye v. London Borough of Barking and Dagenham): The adjudicator determined that motorists must be allowed a reasonable time to register their parking and that technical delays should be taken into account.
- Case Reference 2240441669 (June Rosetta Greenhalf v. London Borough of Havering): The adjudicator found that the parking terms did not explicitly require registration for free parking, and therefore, the PCN was invalid.
In light of the above points and supporting case law, I respectfully request that this Penalty Charge Notice be revoked.

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Any comments on the above ? Thanks in advance.

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Fopr some reason you are still redacting the PCN no. and reg.mark.



More importantly, you have redacted the date of the NoR, which, as the notice itself explains explains, governs the nex stages in the process.

Please supply the missing info...

Sorry old habits...

See updated above.

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Received a notice of rejection.

I will be drafting my appeal to the ajudicator soon.

Would be great if someone could scan.



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Just had the hearing with Hippocrates present.

Won!

Based on insufficient signage.

Great result and thanks again to Hippocrates for all his help.

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DRAFT BELOW:

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I am making representation of parking ticket issued to my vehicle (PCN XXX) on 23 January 2025. The alleged contravention of “Parked without payment of the parking charge” did not occur, and I request that this Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) be cancelled based on the following grounds:

1.First Hour is Free: The parking terms at the location clearly state that the first hour of parking is free. A charge cannot be enforced for non-payment of a free parking period. I was within this free period at the time the PCN was issued.

2.Evidence of Parking Duration: I have additional supporting evidence from my Ring Video Doorbell, which captures timestamped images of my departure and return. These images confirm that my total parking duration was under 45 minutes, further reinforcing that I was within the free parking period.

3.Precedents from Similar Cases: Several independent adjudications have ruled in favour of appellants in comparable situations:

- Case Reference 2240496252 (Sham Choudhury v. London Borough of Redbridge): The adjudicator ruled that a PCN cannot be issued for failing to pay for a period that is free of charge.
- Case Reference 2240428886 (Ololade Oluyoye v. London Borough of Barking and Dagenham): The adjudicator determined that motorists must be allowed a reasonable time to register their parking and that technical delays should be taken into account.
- Case Reference 2240441669 (June Rosetta Greenhalf v. London Borough of Havering): The adjudicator found that the parking terms did not explicitly require registration for free parking, and therefore, the PCN was invalid.
In light of the above points and supporting case law, I respectfully request that this Penalty Charge Notice be revoked.

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OK great, thanks.

I'm going to draft something up and put on here. Would be great if someone could have a look to see if its coherent.

Thanks

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Hello,

NTO received a few days ago.

Thoughts on how to proceed?





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It supports your case, so put it in.

Don't be shocked if they reject your reps, because councils refuse almost all informal reps because they know that if they do, most people then just cough-up, thus maintaining their "nice little earner". Councils keep all the money from PCN payments, did you know that ?

The optimist thought the councils existed for the greater good of the borough. ???

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I have a shopping receipt showing 1.20PM and also ring doorbells screenshot below (conveniently showing the PCN still on my dash as I hadnt yet spotted it!)

First is of me leaving with timestamp and second of me returning with timestamp. Car in the drive.




Do you think that would suffice? Should I also send these bits of evidence to Redbridge in my initial appeal?

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I don't have any proof aside from me leaving my house and coming back (via my Ring Doorbell).

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