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A update - Thanks to Hippocrates, Haringey have now agreed to reimburse my payment in full!

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Thanks! I have appealed, and will update this thread when I hear back.

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Received this Parking Charge Notice today for use of Pick Up/Drop Off zone at Stansted Airport, even though did not use the zone for pick up or drop off. The parking was booked and paid for at the Airport's Orange Zone Car Park, but took the wrong exit from the roundabout and ended up into the Pick Up/Drop Off zone. Once you are past the roundabout into the Pick up/Drop off zone there is no way to turn back, so are forced to drive all the way to the end of the zone, to use the next roundabout to get to the Orange Zone. As you can see from the time stamps, there was no time for any pick up or drop off.

The signage at the roundabout is also confusing and not clear which exit the car should take. The first exit is the Pick Up/Drop Off zone and second for the Orange zone, but no indication which one from the signage.

Could this be a matter of simply writing to APCOA and showing the booking for the Orange zone and saying this was a mistake?  If not, what can be done? Surely they cannot expect someone to pay a fee just to drive through that stretch of inescapable road without doing any picking up or dropping off. It is not a toll road, or is it?

Any help much appreciated.
PCN Page 1 - https://ibb.co/6RZhDjTV
PCN Page 2 - https://ibb.co/PGvtmsh1
Roundabout exits - https://ibb.co/JRrdQtf9

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@HC Andersen, it was after 9 pm and Pelham Road is not a busy thoroughfare. It provides access to some properties but mainly it is the entrance and exit for the Wood Green shopping centre car park. The centre itself is long closed by then except for those few people using it because of the 24/7 gym. There were about 3-4 cars which were stuck behind the blockade, but not enough traffic to block the whole road. They clearly had more patience. Unfortunately none of the cars are visible in the video evidence because it all happens after the road curves to the left.

@Hippocrates, thanks. I will respond to your PM.

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I have now recieved a Notice of Rejection of Representation (see below), saying that although similar representations have resulted in cancellation of PCNs before, each case is individual and do not set a precedent, particularly as legal advice has 'evolved'. My representation was around the PCN flaw suggested by Hippocrates above.

I would love to know how legal advice has evolved since the previous PCN cancellations and my representation.

Happy to hear your opinion on how to proceed with this.

Notice of rejection - https://imgur.com/a/mNVEuHe

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Thank you, Hippocrates. That gives me some confidence that this can be taken all the way. Do you suggest I submit a representation with the PCN flaw or use the police incident in the first instance?

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There was no other exit from the car park, but to emerge on Pelham Road and turn right (this is a one way road), where the police blockade was. Instead turned left and emerged onto Gladstone Avenue. The video shows the car emerging on to Gladstone avenue. The police incident in further up the curve in Pelham Road behind where the car is coming from. It is not visible in the video.
Does anyone know where to find report of police incidents in an area on a specific date? I couldn't find any using Google search.

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Received this postal PCN, due to failing to drive in direction shown by blue arrow, when emerging into Pelham Road from Wood Green Shopping Centre car park. The arrow stated a right turn, however the road was blockaded by police cars, blue flashing lights and ongoing armed police arrest of individuals on the street. It was 9 pm and having waited 20 min already, the situation was not improving. Had to get food and get home. The decision was made to turn left on to Pelham Road and turn into Gladstone Avenue to avoid the blockade. May be I should have waited for as long as needed for the law enforcement to do their duties and be thankful when it was over, but I want to know if anything can be done with this PCN or am I doomed to pay.

PCN - https://imgur.com/a/vSMeIoT
Picture of blockade from other side of Pelham Road - https://imgur.com/a/YPdGEIl

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Notice of Rejection has finally arrived in my email. Annoyingly it is a week old, as it went into my junk folder.So I have about 3 weeks. My next step would be to appeal to the transport tribunal.

From earlier posts, it seems there are previous successes during the appeal stage. Any help here would be greatly appreciated!

Notice of Rejection - https://imgur.com/a/xjMonxy

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Is this inconsistency/contradiction something that can be used to challenge the PCN? Any suggestions would be helpful if there is a chance of success. I don’t have long to make use of the discount for the fine.

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Reply to my informal representation came back saying PCN would not be cancelled. Is there any point in taking this matter further, or should I pay the discounted fine?

https://imgur.com/a/VavVBWb

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Thanks. There didn’t seem to be a way to submit representation online. Once you have entered the PCN details the TFL website only offers a button to pay the PCN rather than submit representation or challenge. Am I not looking in the right place?
I may have to do a written one of this fails

TFL website after entering PCN details - https://imgur.com/a/XYJoi2w
Only option given is to add to basket and pay - https://imgur.com/a/4VkQdND

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After taking their sweet time, TFL has finally sent me the Enforcement Notice - https://imgur.com/a/MFmftug

Do you suggest I submit the representation using the same information as the initial challenge?

Also, TFL have sent me a CD, which I presume is video evidence. I have no device to read a CV! I will ask around for some help on that.

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Am I right in guessing from the messages that there isn’t any recourse to this?

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