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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 07, 2024, 09:09:12 pm »
I have emailed them so that’s evidence now. Thanks for your help so far 
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 06, 2024, 01:51:25 pm »
Kinda annoying for it to be so hard to cancel the ticket. It’s pretty clear case that if VCS & FirstPort worked better together - the other flats & I would have the relevant permits. I feel guilty for my mate as I said he could park there. Especially as it was a visitor spot after all!
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 06, 2024, 01:49:54 pm »
The initial PCN got sent to my mates house. I then represented him for the appeal & going forwards I was the one looking to get this dropped (thought it would be pretty simple but here we are). I guess they’ve since then changed their info to me for an unknown reason but I’ve emailed them confirming again that I wasn’t the driver.
The flats aren’t retirement - the whole estate have similar issues & we’re all wanting to move to better management companies. As a tenant & not owner though I can’t even properly access the FirstPort website
The flats aren’t retirement - the whole estate have similar issues & we’re all wanting to move to better management companies. As a tenant & not owner though I can’t even properly access the FirstPort website
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 06, 2024, 10:29:33 am »
Yeah okay. I’ll confirm it in an email to them. I clearly put that I have permission to represent my friend on the appeal so I’ll reconfirm that. I’ve managed to get Vanessa from FirstPort mobile number so will give her a ring on Monday as she should be able to sort this out.
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 06, 2024, 10:08:13 am »
The issue isn’t the parking. The issue I believe is that there would be no issue if they had issued the permits out on time. VCS confirmed they hadn’t even sent out the permits until late November so that gave just under 2 months (from early October expiry of permits) of not a single person having a valid permit in the entire car park.
Is it not reasonable to assume that parking enforcement can’t be enforced during this period?
Is it not reasonable to assume that parking enforcement can’t be enforced during this period?
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 06, 2024, 10:06:01 am »
I guess no, I’ve never said I’m not the driver. I agreed to fight this for my friend as I kinda gave him the go ahead as I was aware that we’re awaiting permits / visitor permits so thought it wouldn’t be an issue. I even contacted VCS straight away after my friend received the PCN & stated the permit issue and they said on the phone that this would be a valid appeal.
It’s clear at some point that they changed the address for communications from my friends address, got through DVLA, to mine - listed on the appeal.
What would stating I wasn’t the driver achieve?
It’s clear at some point that they changed the address for communications from my friends address, got through DVLA, to mine - listed on the appeal.
What would stating I wasn’t the driver achieve?
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 11:40:22 pm »
This is their rejection of it. Asking me to send them a valid permit when I’ve had written confirmation from VCS that they hadn’t even sent out the new permits (to firstport not residents) until end November so it’s plain impossible. This led me to believe they didn’t even read my appeal properly.
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 11:38:01 pm »
There was an option to state that I have the right to park there. Added comment about the permit situation & seems they acknowledged this on the acknowledgment of the appeal.
I had consent from my friend to act on his behalf so I believe I ticked a box to that extent.
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I had consent from my friend to act on his behalf so I believe I ticked a box to that extent.
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 11:23:19 pm »
It’s my friend & I told him I’d deal with it as I thought it would be it quick issue to resolve. I’ve not once stated that I am the driver but have been communicating that it would be my permit. The permits aren’t linked to a specific reg number. The visitor permits & resident permits are issued at same time.
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 11:21:28 pm »
Attached to imgur are the screenshots showing my appeal being rejected, conversation with FirstPort & VCS..
https://imgur.com/a/mvx3RJl
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https://imgur.com/a/mvx3RJl
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 11:13:41 pm »
I’m not entirely sure owns the land. I’ve tried to find this out - FirstPort property managers are the people who deal with everything & I had confirmation from FirstPort that our specific property manager, Vanessa Crane, contacted VCS to reverse the charge - this is something VCS said never happened. My flat is leasehold but I’m just a tenant renting. Our tenancy agreement includes car parking space. I’m not aware of any resident group except there’s an annual meeting to discuss service charges from FirstPort (but I’ve never had experience with this as all included in rent).
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 11:10:17 pm »
In regards to me being addressed. I presume they changed the address to myself as I was conversing with them a lot on email? Kinda out of the blue. Attached is the most recent letter.
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 08:22:28 pm »
STILL NO SIGN OF NEW PERMITS BEING ISSUED TO US RESIDENTS. VCS claim they sent the permits to firstport late November but we haven’t got them - firstport have stated they’ll be delivering them next week. Does this help prove my case?
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Private parking tickets / Re: PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: January 05, 2024, 08:20:36 pm »
Apologies! Lost the login but just got back on. I am the one listed on the fine now - they sent me a payment reminder of £170. The property managing firm informed me that our specific property manager contacted VCS to drop the charge but VCS emailed me today stating they received nothing of the sort. Firstport, our property managers, said they’re aware of the delay & seems to accept responsibility.
I have recieved a “demand for payment” letter today & just wondering what I should prepare if it comes to county court. I 100% feel like the delay between the companies should not punish myself.
Whats comical is that they’re sending the payment reminder to myself at the postcode that apparently where the fine incurred - shouldn’t this clearly show that it’s a bogus charge & VCS shouldn’t waste their time to pursue Bizarre!
I have recieved a “demand for payment” letter today & just wondering what I should prepare if it comes to county court. I 100% feel like the delay between the companies should not punish myself.
Whats comical is that they’re sending the payment reminder to myself at the postcode that apparently where the fine incurred - shouldn’t this clearly show that it’s a bogus charge & VCS shouldn’t waste their time to pursue Bizarre!
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Private parking tickets / PCN - Visitor Space - Private Residential Car Park
« on: November 05, 2023, 11:08:56 pm »
A guest of ours has received a £100 PCN for parking overnight in a VISITOR space. Need guidance on best way to appeal this.
For context, our block of flats we live in has a private car park with spaces numbered by our door numbers (10,11 ,12 etc) but also 3 visitor spaces just labelled “V”.
The parking enforcement company has failed to give us new permits for our own designated parking spaces - these permits expired 8th October 2023. It is currently 5th November 2023 & no sign of new permits for the year despite a few of my neighbours having emailed the company responsible. A neighbour received the following from the company when requesting: “Please be advised we are still awaiting approval from the client of the car park” as a explanation why they couldn’t get hold of more visitor permits nor new designated passes.
In addition to permits for designated spots, they also have these paper permits which you’re meant to give visitors but many of us don’t have any left as they are one use & other neighbours have requested more along with their new permits - still to no avail. The signs displayed don’t reference “visitor” spots & you wouldn’t actually know that you need this piece of paper for parking in a VISITOR spot. Absolutely absurd to need a permit for visitor space in my opinion.
The signs that are visible state:
“ Valid Parking Permits Only. Park Only Within The Lines Of Your Permitted Allocated Bay. Permit holders must clearly display a valid permit inside the front windscreen of the vehicle with all details clearly visible at all times.”
Given the fact that genuinely none of us have “valid” permits (they’re all expired 08/10/2023), signs are unclear regarding visitor spaces & there’s confusion regarding the control of the car park - is this enough ground for appeal or if not, what else can we look into? TIA
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For context, our block of flats we live in has a private car park with spaces numbered by our door numbers (10,11 ,12 etc) but also 3 visitor spaces just labelled “V”.
The parking enforcement company has failed to give us new permits for our own designated parking spaces - these permits expired 8th October 2023. It is currently 5th November 2023 & no sign of new permits for the year despite a few of my neighbours having emailed the company responsible. A neighbour received the following from the company when requesting: “Please be advised we are still awaiting approval from the client of the car park” as a explanation why they couldn’t get hold of more visitor permits nor new designated passes.
In addition to permits for designated spots, they also have these paper permits which you’re meant to give visitors but many of us don’t have any left as they are one use & other neighbours have requested more along with their new permits - still to no avail. The signs displayed don’t reference “visitor” spots & you wouldn’t actually know that you need this piece of paper for parking in a VISITOR spot. Absolutely absurd to need a permit for visitor space in my opinion.
The signs that are visible state:
“ Valid Parking Permits Only. Park Only Within The Lines Of Your Permitted Allocated Bay. Permit holders must clearly display a valid permit inside the front windscreen of the vehicle with all details clearly visible at all times.”
Given the fact that genuinely none of us have “valid” permits (they’re all expired 08/10/2023), signs are unclear regarding visitor spaces & there’s confusion regarding the control of the car park - is this enough ground for appeal or if not, what else can we look into? TIA
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