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Thank you for that. It would be a gamble to take it to adjudicator, but it might have to be the case as Redbridge are highly likely not to be lenient.

Are there any other thoughts?

Hi all, thank you in advance for any help. I'm wondering if there are any avenues for appealing.

I've parked in this area many times and used the free hour on Ringgo. On this occasion something clearly didn't work when I put it through on the app, as I came back within the hour to find a PCN and checked my app to find no active parking session. I'm certain I did put it through as my friend witnessed me putting it through, but there is no evidence of that as I don't have it recorded on the app and it doesn't take a payment.

I've attached images of the PCN and the parked car (the bay markings are almost non-existent).

We don't have the info needed to properly challenge this which is why I said ask them for their pics.

If I were challenging this I'd say:

I am challenging on the grounds that the 02 loading contravention did not occur. As far as I am aware there are not loading restrictions at this location - I did not see signage to this effect when I stopped to briefly collect items from a shop here.

I am unable to check your CEO's pictures as they do not seem to be online but I trust my challenge is correct and look forward to your cancellation of this PCN.


Frankly it would be miserable if they didn't give the discount if they can stand the contravention up but see what others say.

Thank you for your suggestion - I have requested them, but not received a message back yet. I'll update if there are no photographs attributed to my PCN.


Yes it does seem outrageous that the payment is being forced on to most individuals who wouldn't have the capacity to look into a proper challenge and might have any representations rejected.

So let's get this right. You parked to go shopping on double-yellow lines. These need no signs, so there were none for you to look out for. Did you not notice these DYLs which mean No Waiting 24x7 ?

The PCN says the restriction is also No Loading, but GSV latest is August 2021, and shows there is no no-loading restriction, so a No Loading restriction may have been brought in since them. So if you are to take this further with us, you'll need to do some legwork and take photos of the street where you parked so we can look for yellow kerb blips and a sign giving the times of the loading restriction. If they are double kerb blips, it is No Loading 24x7.

I get the distinct feeling reading your narrative that you just decided to chance your arm, but lost; true or false ?

Incidentally, you should be able to view the CEO's photos on their website by quoting PCN Number and car reg.

Incandescent thank you for your input - I feel I was quite transparent that I made a silly mistake and didn't allude to anything else; but if it's important to you to establish what is true or false - the mistake I made was taking a chance on parking incorrectly.

The website shows no photos when I input my details - I'm not sure what that means.

Havering is not my local area so I will see whether it is possible to return to check signage etc. I can see how that would be important to establish.

Hello all, thanks in advance for any help.

Infuriatingly silly mistake on my part - parked up in front of a shop to collect something without looking at specific restrictions. PCN issued within a minute by the attendant and he was taking photos of my car as I left. Havering have just removed the option of the discounted rate if I attempt an appeal, which means I'd need to be confident of grounds if I wanted to try.


Google maps location(white van is where I parked)

I wasn't able to examine signage etc as I left the spot. I also can't view the attendant's photos as this has not been issued by post.

I'd be grateful for any thoughts on whether I could successfully appeal this on any grounds. Thanks!

Thank you, any other thoughts would be appreciated before I submit reps!

That feels way too easy, I guess I'll give that a go!

That makes sense, I'll await the NTO. Thank you!