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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia - Waitrose overstay and missed appeal deadline
« on: April 06, 2026, 05:51:32 pm »
Thanks @DWMB2.

Re the original PCN - no other correspondence has been received by the keeper. However, from having seen other Britannia PCNs (on here and in real life I know they are generally far from PoFA compliant.

If the keeper does not get a POPLA code, what happens? Can they take it to POPLA without one? If not, is it just a case of waiting to see what Britannia does next (plus talking to the Waitrose manager)?

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Private parking tickets / Britannia - Waitrose overstay and missed appeal deadline
« on: April 06, 2026, 05:05:15 pm »
Hi,

Need some advice re a PCN where the appeal deadline has passed, please.

Background is as follows:

The driver parked at Waitrose - where the car park is free for customers and non-customers alike, with a max stay of 90 minutes. The driver did not shop at Waitrose that day (although is a regular customer there). It appears they may have stayed longer than 90 minutes.
The keeper has now received a PCN dated 2/3/26. They only collected it today as they have been staying away from home for the past few weeks. The 28 day appeal deadline has therefore passed.

The PCN is not PoFA compliant and the keeper therefore wishes to send the standard Britannia appeal. However, when going onto the website today, it gave this error: "Sorry, you have reached the maximum number of appeals for this PCN."
No previous appeal has been made so perhaps this is their way of saying the 28 days has passed?

So, my questions are:

1. Is the keeper's position weakened by having missed the appeal deadline?
2. What happens now in terms of getting a PoPLA code etc?
3. Is it worth sending a backdated appeal by post and hoping they will assume the Easter holidays delayed delivery?
4. Does anyone know the best email to use to ask Waitrose to cancel the PCN (both I and the keeper are also regular Waitrose customers)?

Thanks in advance!

PCN can be seen at: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LX9wsUzClWX2b_I0EDWQ0oWtZhEB9M7B/view?usp=sharing


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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia Parking PCN from pub car park
« on: February 28, 2026, 10:05:21 am »
I was planning to simply copy the Britannia appeal found here:
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/britannia-parking-ntk-for-not-entering-car-reg-in-pub-the-fleece-carpark-penwort/msg103607/#msg103607
(but minus the final paragraph about them having no hope at POPLA).

Will that do the job?

Copied and pasted from the above thread for convenience:

"I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Britannia has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable.

I would also add that you have breached your own code of practice, the PPSCoP, in that Under Annex F - Apeals charter, (F.3.g) it stipulates that under the circumstances you cite for raising the 'parking charge', you MUST discount the charge to £20. You did not do that.

Britannia have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN."

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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia Parking PCN from pub car park
« on: February 27, 2026, 11:05:22 am »
The keeper went to the pub car park this morning and took photos of the signage which can be seen at:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cTmVS_pxdzX2Ns02EzC2MAH9Mt3fkVGB?usp=sharing

Although the signs say that customers have to pay upfront and get a refund at the bar, the usual procedure is for customers to simply enter their reg into a terminal at the bar which is intended to be for staff only. As noted earlier, it appears the driver may have forgotten to do that on this occasion.

On the plus side, whilst the keeper was taking these photos today, a member of staff from the pub came out and said that this (issuing of unwarranted PCNs) happens a lot and that if the keeper emails the details to the pub they will get it cancelled.

To be on the safe side, though, I'd still like to help her submit an appeal to Britannia - so any advice on what to say would be much appreciated, please, as the deadline is only a couple of days away.

Thanks!

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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia Parking PCN from pub car park
« on: February 26, 2026, 07:08:36 pm »
Quote from: Mustek on February 25, 2026, 12:34:09 pm
Also show the back of the notice.


Here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dTP7Ji9-dFt9d7sUFdCra7eFSTR6al5U/view?usp=sharing

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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia Parking PCN from pub car park
« on: February 26, 2026, 02:16:43 pm »
Agree about visiting the pub, but the keeper doesn't live very near to the pub so won't get a chance to do that for a week or so. In the meantime, I still want to help her get an appeal in to Britannia - especially as I wouldn't trust the pub to actually follow through o cancelling it, whatever they say at the time.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia Parking PCN from pub car park
« on: February 25, 2026, 01:07:02 pm »
Don't have the back of the notice available at the moment as the keeper is away from home and only has what a housemate has photographed and sent over. Have requested a copy of the reverse, but I suspect it is identical to the one shown at https://ibb.co/x8dXVCk1.

Have tried ringing the pub but no answer. Will keep trying. Presumably, even if they say they'll get it cancelled, an apeal should still be submitted in case the pub don't actually get round to actioning anything.

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Private parking tickets / Re: Britannia parking - NTK for not entering car reg in pub, the Fleece carpark, Penwortham, Preston, Lancs
« on: February 25, 2026, 12:28:01 pm »
What was the outcome of your POPLA appeal @Rocketeer ? I'm dealing with a similar situation myself at the moment and would be interested to know how you got on.

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Private parking tickets / Britannia Parking PCN from pub car park
« on: February 25, 2026, 12:26:00 pm »
Hi,

The registered keeper received this NtK after the driver of the car visited a pub where there was a requirement to enter the registration number into a terminal at the bar. The driver cannot remember if they did so.

The NtK appears to be full of errors (e.g. refers to the Motorist rather than the Driver/Keeper).

Any advice on what to say in an initial appeal to Britannia would be much appreciated please.

Is it worth contacting the pub at the same time as submitting the appeal?

Thanks in advance.

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