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Private parking tickets / Re: District Enforcement / Gladstones PCN – No Valid Payment – Bowers Row Pay & Display, Nantwich (Payment demand tomorr
« on: Yesterday at 01:43:51 pm »
Hi all,
Thank you for all the responses they have been very helpful. I have now drafted my response.
I have used the template doing the rounds on the forum and tailored it to my specific circumstances. The only points I have added to the template wording are in paragraphs 3(c), 3(e), and 3(g), where I have included:
- The vagueness of the "no valid payment" allegation
- The unexplained £60 add-on
- The PoFA Schedule 4 paragraph 9(2)(f) non-compliance point that InterCity125 kindly flagged. I have checked the NtK that Gladstones emailed me and can confirm that the phrase "if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met" does not appear in it.
I am not identifying the driver.
Here is the draft:
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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.
2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4.
3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:
(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with PD 16, para 7.3(1);
(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;
(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the Claimant asserts the Defendant has breached the contract (or contracts). The alleged contravention is stated only as "no valid payment" without identifying which contractual term this is said to breach, what payment method was required, or why any payment made was invalid;
(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;
(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges. In particular, the sum claimed includes £60 described as costs for "time/resources spent facilitating recovery," the contractual and legal basis for which is not explained;
(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;
(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the Claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity. The Defendant is the registered keeper and does not identify the driver. If the Claimant seeks to rely on keeper liability under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, the Notice to Keeper dated 25 June 2025 does not contain the mandatory warning required by paragraph 9(2)(f) of that Schedule, specifically the phrase "if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met," and keeper liability therefore does not arise.
4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out materially similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.
5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found that requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim due to the Claimant's failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:
Draft Order:
Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.
AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the Claimant asserts that the Defendant was in breach of contract.
AND the Claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to PD 7C, para 5.2, but chose not to do so.
AND upon the Court determining, having regard to the overriding objective (CPR 1.1), that it would be disproportionate to direct further pleadings or to allot any further share of the Court's resources to this claim (for example by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, with consequent case management).
ORDER:
1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 7 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
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Any comments before I submit would be very gratefully received, particularly on whether the PoFA point in 3(g) is appropriately worded, and whether the draft as a whole fits within the 122-line MCOL limit.
Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this thread.
Thank you for all the responses they have been very helpful. I have now drafted my response.
I have used the template doing the rounds on the forum and tailored it to my specific circumstances. The only points I have added to the template wording are in paragraphs 3(c), 3(e), and 3(g), where I have included:
- The vagueness of the "no valid payment" allegation
- The unexplained £60 add-on
- The PoFA Schedule 4 paragraph 9(2)(f) non-compliance point that InterCity125 kindly flagged. I have checked the NtK that Gladstones emailed me and can confirm that the phrase "if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met" does not appear in it.
I am not identifying the driver.
Here is the draft:
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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.
2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4.
3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:
(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with PD 16, para 7.3(1);
(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;
(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the Claimant asserts the Defendant has breached the contract (or contracts). The alleged contravention is stated only as "no valid payment" without identifying which contractual term this is said to breach, what payment method was required, or why any payment made was invalid;
(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;
(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges. In particular, the sum claimed includes £60 described as costs for "time/resources spent facilitating recovery," the contractual and legal basis for which is not explained;
(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;
(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the Claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity. The Defendant is the registered keeper and does not identify the driver. If the Claimant seeks to rely on keeper liability under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, the Notice to Keeper dated 25 June 2025 does not contain the mandatory warning required by paragraph 9(2)(f) of that Schedule, specifically the phrase "if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met," and keeper liability therefore does not arise.
4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out materially similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.
5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found that requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim due to the Claimant's failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:
Draft Order:
Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.
AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the Claimant asserts that the Defendant was in breach of contract.
AND the Claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to PD 7C, para 5.2, but chose not to do so.
AND upon the Court determining, having regard to the overriding objective (CPR 1.1), that it would be disproportionate to direct further pleadings or to allot any further share of the Court's resources to this claim (for example by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, with consequent case management).
ORDER:
1. The claim is struck out.
2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 7 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
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Any comments before I submit would be very gratefully received, particularly on whether the PoFA point in 3(g) is appropriately worded, and whether the draft as a whole fits within the 122-line MCOL limit.
Thanks again to everyone who has helped on this thread.