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Wasn't sure how to post the video, so I've uploaded it as a private video on YouTube. I am shocked at this, what an invasion of privacy.

The junction is definitely Ealing Village, though I don't remember this at all. Traffic was moving but seemed to stop suddenly, I don't remember why. You can see my try to turn to change lanes while they zoom into my face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf8dK0Ibt-c


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Just spoke to my neighbour who has a disk-drive on his PC. Footage is coming shortly!

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Oh wow, actually now you've said this - I think I've been looking at the wrong box the whole time.

Here are the images from the PCN.

https://ibb.co/jkZvtB5C
https://ibb.co/WWmBZZ1R

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I've just updated the original post to include the google maps link, apologies I forgot to add it. I was travelling northbound, the same was as the white van in this link.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sntme9KbQPnnwXt7

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This was also my theory, that the duplication of representations was causing the automated parts to breakdown and therefore increase the price.

Thanks for confirming the timeline, I was expecting to see the update online to show a NoR but this being my first offence, I'm new to this process! I do keep checking it every day to see if it changes. I'll sit on the idea of calling them, and see how I feel on Monday, checking it this morning and seeing the price double made me feel like I've missed something.

I will see if I can get someone to get a copy of the video to me for upload here. I will continue to keep this post updated as the PCN progresses. 

Thanks for your quick response, it really is greatly appreciated.

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Hi, thanks for your quick response. I was just concerned to see the price jump to the £160, when I was on the phone with TFL I was told that this would not increase if representation was submitted and if the enquiry is released from being 'on hold' the 14 days would then continue to count down.

That said however, when I called them initially I did request the footage, and I do have a copy but ironically, I don't actually own a DVD player at all. My PC doesn't have one a disc-drive, nor' do I own a gaming console!

Regardless, I will call them on Monday to see what is going on and say that I haven't not yet had a response to my submitted representation, I've submitted my representation again online today and have another reference to this because I was in a bit of a panic when I saw it this morning.

To submit to the London Tribunals, I need a letter of rejection and the code on that to submit so I can't do that until I have this - Do you know if TFL send this via email or post or both?

I really appreciate your quick reply, thank you.

EDIT: This is the letter I received, but it seemed to be in response to an email I sent on the day of getting the PCN letter asking for the footage via email. Not sure if this letter is a response to anything: https://ibb.co/hR0FHH2y

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I received notification of this PCN on 22/12/2025 (https://ibb.co/xqVKJj9v). The date of the PCN shown on the letter is 19/12/2025.

On the same day I received the PCN letter, I contacted TFL because I was unable to view the CCTV footage online. This is my first PCN from TfL, and I was not aware that footage must be requested by phone and is only provided via CD/DVD.

I submitted my own representation on 22/12/2025 (https://ibb.co/whmcDfXR). My representation was made on the basis that:

- The only evidence of the alleged contravention is the CCTV footage.
- TfL does not provide this evidence in an accessible electronic format.
- I referenced another case (225000538A) relating to access to evidence.
- I also stated that this specific yellow box junction was previously ruled to be non-compliant in another case (224054294A), and therefore argued that the PCN should not be enforceable.

Since submitting my representation, I have checked the PCN status online every single day.

I have received no other formal communication from TfL whatsoever — no Notice of Rejection, no Charge Certificate, no emails, no phone calls, and no letters. All my email addresses are correct and whitelisted, and there is nothing in my junk or spam folders.

As of today (24/01/2026), the online status still shows the PCN as “On Hold”, however the outstanding amount has increased to £160.00. This is confusing, as an increase would suggest the PCN is no longer on hold. (https://ibb.co/CpNVk8hS)

I am unable to contact TfL until Monday as their offices are closed over the weekend. I am concerned about what may happen next, as I was not expecting the charge to increase while the case appears to remain “On Hold” and without any formal response to my representation.


Update:

Here is the google maps link; https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sntme9KbQPnnwXt7

Here is the footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf8dK0Ibt-c

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