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Any last help with this please!

I appealed the second PCN on grounds of continuous contravention, that I did the ringgo session at 9.06 (warden witnessed 9.04.-9.11 but on the ticket you can hardly read the 9.04)

I haven’t appealed the first PCN yet (where I was in the wrong because i forgot to do the session) BUT I might appeal based on the fact you can’t see the 5 minute period very clearly and so, I don’t think council have complied with rules.

My question:
- does appealing the first ticket reduce my chance of the second ticket getting cancelled?

I would rather pay £80 for one PCN then get both appeals rejected because it looks like I am just trying to worm my way out of it…

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Please help - can I contest PCN 1 based on this pic:

https://imgpile.com/p/8KbF0zg#R5HvJ5n

h&f council have a requirement for 5 min observation - can i argue the period isn’t clear?

I will then contest PCN 2 on continuous contravention, i took the first pcn off the car but the fact I did a ringo session at 9.06 and the observed period again isn’t clear (pics taken at 9.11) -

is it risky to argue both? shall i pay pcn 1 and contest 2nd one only?

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All I can suggest you do is submit representations based on what happened, and see what they reply with. It is very unlikely indeed that they will cancel either of the PCNs, from receipt of an informal challenge.

If you wait for the Notices to Owner, and submit the reps again, they will be reconsidered probably in more detail, but against you is council greed for money. Certainly you only have good will for the first PCN.  As for the mis-printing, you should mention it in your reps. I have to say I don't have much experience of mis-printed PCNs, yours is almost readable, but we've seen some much worse. Reps for the second PCN should certainly be for it being a continuous contravention.

Probably best to wait a bit to see if anybody else contributes anything I haven't covered incl the misprinted PCN, but don't miss PCN deadlines. They will serve Notices to Owner to the name an address on the V5C Registration Certificate if nothing is done about the PCNs. Is the owner you ?


what do you mean by receipt of an informal challenge? will they really not accept the appeal for the second one? happy to not claim the misprint if it isn’t going to help the case

yes i am the owner

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'continuous contravention provided it was served within the time normally allowed when one activates a permit in the way you describe'

what do you mean? The period is 9am - 6.30pm, permit or pay and display. 6.30pm - 8pm, permit only. 8pm - 10pm same as first period.

I parked at 7pm ish, went away, saw the PCN at 8pm ish and took it off and left again (car remained unmoved). I thought I don't need to activate the session because I already got the PCN. At 9ish, I thought, let me do the session incase. Came back to car again and saw the SECOND PCN observed at 9.04.

Will the second one likely be cancelled or will they say it was observed in the 8-10pm period?

is there anything about the PCN being misprinted?

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Long shot but is this worth appealing:

I parked here at 7pm and forgot to activate my visitor permit. I'm aware therefore I have made a mistake, but I genuinely forgot. I have activated over 100 sessions (and paid where appropriate) over the past few months. Would the council consider cancelling this as a goodwill gesture?

If not, can I appeal based on the misalignment of the amount on the ticket (the misprinting)?

Can I ask for the 'Less serious contravention' amount if they deny me
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/parking/parking-tickets-and-enforcement

I have blocked out the PCN number (it isn't available to view yet due to it not being 24 hours)

https://maps.app.goo.gl/yV3qChViwnLHqRh26

https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/6QQYPJ8_xl.jpeg

SECONDLY, I got A SECOND PCN because I took the first one off, didn't activate the session and a different officer put it on - what are the chances of getting this cancelled (does continuous contravention apply?)


thanks in advance for any help


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