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understood, still worth the initial push back
Thanks to everyone for your help! Will get this paid this time and just be mindful in the future of this "ADHD tax"

received in post, is it possible to win in tribunal against this? Are planters really an advance warning sign for prohibited entry?

Quote

18.—(1) Where an order relating to any road has been made, the order making authority shall take such steps as are necessary to secure—

(a)before the order comes into force, the placing on or near the road of such traffic signs in such positions as the order making authority may consider requisite for securing that adequate information as to the effect of the order is made available to persons using the road;

(b)the maintenance of such signs for so long as the order remains in force; and

(c)in a case where the order revokes, amends or alters the application of a previous order, the removal or replacement of existing traffic signs as the authority considers requisite to avoid confusion to road users by signs being left in the wrong positions.

Advance warning signs tend to be of two types, (1) text on a blue background with sometimes an arrow indicating next turn left or right, and (2) diagram of junction in black on a white background with the barred street have the Flying Motorbike sign. I consider (2) is best.

If you submit reps to Haringey within the discount period, they normally re-offer the discount when rejecting to encourage you to settle the matter. If you take them to London Tribunals they have the PITA of having to prepare an evidence pack and to pay the adjudication fee.

I have put together my response to them above, would this be ok?
Apologies for tagging everyone, but only got like a day or two to send this

not 100% sure of the format as this is my first such PCN in 15 years. I put together this, please let me know if I need to amend anything. Thank you so much!

I would like to challenge this PCN as it was issued unfairly.
On the day the driver was taking the Myddleton road in an area never visited before. Navigation was suggesting a left turn and the driver has assessed the situation and checked for signs and took the left turn. Myddleton road does not have any signs prohibiting left turns of any kind on to Marlborough road. During the manoeuvre a sign prohibiting entry without a permit has revealed itself. As it is facing towards Marlborough road, it meant that at the time of noticing this sign it would be too late to change direction without suddenly stopping and risking causing an accident. Therefore the driver has made a decision to continue forward.



It is the councils duty under Regulation 18 of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996 to erect adequate signage of a traffic restriction. In this particular case the sign appears well into the manoeuvre without adequate warning beforehand. This situation and the reception of a PCN has already caused significant distress to the driver, which I hope was done accidentally and not maliciously. 



I am therefore asking to cancel this PCN and re-assess this turn in particular and add additional, legally required signage.

Noted, I did look around as I know there may be surprises but never saw this coming.

A few questions here:
- What does an advance warning sign look like, same as the warning on the street but also highlighting that it's for the left turn?
- The page you linked to has a lot of legal speak there, which line specifically mentiones adequate signage?
- If they reject, could I still pay the reduced rate or have to go to tribunal?

Thanks so much!