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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: (32d) - PCN - Cardiff - Failing to drive in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign
« on: December 05, 2025, 04:15:26 pm »The two signs don't mean the same thing, although I accept you got a bit confused. The first sign says all "traffic must turn left", with a qualifier plate below that gives exceptions to the arrow.
The second sign means "No Right Turn" with the plate below giving exceptions, with a No Left Turn similarly. These signs mean traffic must drive straight ahead and must not turn (left or right), the other sign means traffic MUST make a turn.
I suggest you submit reps on the basis that you have driven this way for 15 years at least, and it was a shock coming to this sign and you were therefore confused and drove straight on, (or turned right; you don't say which).
They may shoot themselves in the foot in their rejection, but unless they do, I can't see a win here at the adjudicators where the full PCN penalty is in play.
Thanks appreciate the reply.
I went back down there today and I noticed this too, so the road in question has traffic calming measures in place where the oncoming cars have right of way so you have to stop at the give way marks. This is exactly where this other sign is completely obsucring the left turn only sign, so when you pull off there's a very high chance that you will miss the sign, coupled with no road markings or prior signage. Do you think this is worth appealing on those grounds?
