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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: INTERVIEW UNDER CAUTION
« on: February 08, 2024, 01:41:23 pm »
Quote from: Daim456 on February 08, 2024, 01:34:17 pm
Two different cars, why is that.

From what I know that the Blue Badge is issued personally. (Apart from Organisation Blue Badges)

We have two cars parked on the same street. It's a public parking with a lot of other cars. I reported my blue badge lost and was issued a new one. I found the old one and therefore had two. The old and new one. The old one, which had been cancelled due to being reported as missing, was issued with a PCN and reported to the council. Council now want to interview me under caution. I hope this helps clear up your question.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: INTERVIEW UNDER CAUTION
« on: February 07, 2024, 06:01:55 pm »
Quote from: M60NJP on February 07, 2024, 05:50:07 pm
Oh dear. Whilst it's never certain, councils do seem to act robustly at BB abuse, so they will very likely pursue this.

Sorry to answer a Q with 'it depends' , but a lot depends on how you want to play this? It may make sense to fall on your sword unless you have a wizard wheeze to explain legally & honestly why the other one was also in use, but it reads that you haven't.

Best to wait a day on so on here to see what better informed folks can add.

Google says it's a fine (max £1000) and confiscation of the badge - but that was a London based reference, IDK if it differs elsewhere.

Thanks for all the help. i appreciate it. im not worried about the fine and badge. Its the criminal record im worried about.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: INTERVIEW UNDER CAUTION
« on: February 07, 2024, 05:36:12 pm »
Quote from: M60NJP on February 07, 2024, 05:29:45 pm
The obvious Q is why you used the cancelled one having been issued a new one? Are they suspicious that the new one is 'elsewhere'?........


They have not said if they do or not; however, I did use the cancelled one because the new one was also being used at the same location. I admit i took advantage of the system by using two badges at the same time on different cars. Not proud of what i did.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / INTERVIEW UNDER CAUTION
« on: February 07, 2024, 05:02:36 pm »
My council has asked me to attend an interview under caution for a vehicle contravention of section 117 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. It all started when I used a blue badge, which was cancelled. I am a disabled veteran and do have a blue badge. However, on this day, I used a cancelled blue badge, which I had reported lost and had been issued a new one. I must admit i used both badges at the same location on two different cars. Not proud of playing the system but its already happened and i can only learn from this.

I would like some help on how to go about this interview as what I say will determine if the council takes further action or not. Thank you.

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The Flame Pit / Re: BLUE BADGE MISUSE (cancelled blue badge displayed)
« on: October 11, 2023, 08:04:16 pm »
Quote from: Pastmybest on October 11, 2023, 05:50:48 pm
Quote from: BuzzingBee on October 10, 2023, 11:52:52 pm
Quote from: Incandescent on October 10, 2023, 11:46:31 pm
Well, if you've now paid, there is nothing more we can advise you on. Paying closes off the adjudication appeal option.

Paying closes the case? I don't get it. Aside the PCN I have also been asked to provide my details for using. the cancelled blue badge. To my knowledge they are two different cases.

Two cases in effect. The civil one of using a BB that is not valid that is the PCN. Shame you paid coz it is almost certain that could have been overturned as it was not served properly.

Then you have an investigation into a criminal matter. Fraud. You need deal with this. do not hide of try to blag it tell them what happened, they will have a record of you reporting the badge stolen/lost. Remember as of now the council do not know who was using the badge when the are given the information that it was you the person entitled to hold it, how they will look at things is likely to be very different

Thanks. I know you said not to ignore or hide BUT what would happen if I do. Will they end up convicting the vehicle keeper/owner who is my cousin or they will somehow link it to me. At the moment the letter is addressed to my cousin and I have not been mentioned at all as to their knowledge I have reported the badge lost.

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The Flame Pit / Re: BLUE BADGE MISUSE (cancelled blue badge displayed)
« on: October 10, 2023, 11:52:52 pm »
Quote from: Incandescent on October 10, 2023, 11:46:31 pm
Well, if you've now paid, there is nothing more we can advise you on. Paying closes off the adjudication appeal option.

Paying closes the case? I don't get it. Aside the PCN I have also been asked to provide my details for using. the cancelled blue badge. To my knowledge they are two different cases.

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The Flame Pit / Re: BLUE BADGE MISUSE (cancelled blue badge displayed)
« on: October 10, 2023, 11:16:13 pm »
Quote from: DancingDad on October 10, 2023, 10:43:50 pm
Please confirm that you are still entitled to a Blue Badge?
Was a new one issued when you reported the old one lost?

Your cousin.... the letter has to be replied to unless he wants to end up facing a summons to court.
He should provide your name and address (whichever is best for you)
They are investigating Blue Badge abuse (S117 RTRA 1984) which given the use of a cancelled badge is understandable.
Assuming that you are still entitled and it was a simple error, I would expect no more then an interview and a borrocking.

Your PCN..... by the sounds of it bang to rights in using a cancelled BB but an apologetic challenge with a copy of your legitimate badge?? and explanation that it was a simple error and why may get it cancelled.
If you can post the PCN we can also look if any errors


Thanks for the help.
Yes I am still entitled to a blue badge. I receive the highest component of PIP mobility component and walk with a stick. When I applied for a new one I was not issued a new one. This was because on the day of payment the councils systems was down and they could not take the £10 payment after many tries. I found my old one within the same week and just forgot about it.

My cousin will provide my details and my address and the next stages will be inviting me for an interview. I already sent a challenge for the PCN but after receiving this letter today I have just gone on to pay for it.



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The Flame Pit / BLUE BADGE MISUSE (cancelled blue badge displayed)
« on: October 10, 2023, 10:24:26 pm »
Hi All

This is my first post after just joining so please pardon any mistakes on my behalf. I came across this page while looking for help. I will try and keep it short.

I am a disabled veteran with a blue badge. As of August I misplaced my blue badge and reported it lost. I found my old badge and used it but unbeknownst to me it had been cancelled. The car I am driving is registered in my cousins name but I am insured to drive it. The Internal Audit And Anti Fraud team of Another council has now issued me a PCN and also sent my cousin a NOTICE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION stating "contravention of section 117. He is asked to provide information of driver and any other information identifying driver.

A crucial information is I live at two addresses. My old address which I still receive Mail at and have family there is the council that issued my blue badge (Oxfordshire). My new address anti fraud team is the council that has issued me the PCN and the letter (Greenwich). Even though this is an honest mistake should I be worried and what advise would you give me on how to proceed. I have also attached the letter sent to my cousin who is the registered keeper. Thank you.

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