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I have launched the tribunal appeal and received a hearing date in April next year. Does the council contest these generally or do they give up at this point sometimes?

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I have launched the tribunal appeal and received a hearing date in April next year. Does the council contest these generally or do they give up at this point sometimes?

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Thanks for the above - so you are suggesting those 3 points are stronger case than the actual issue I'm debating them on? Do they charge for the next step in this appeals process?

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I don't seem to be able to upload but letter is standard rejection and here is the text:

Penalty Charge Notice (parking ticket) number:HR77160681
Date of contravention: 03 Jun 2025
Location: WEST STREET
Vehicle registration: RF63ZNE
Thank you for writing to us.
We have carefully considered what you say but we have decided not to cancel your Penalty
Charge Notice (PCN).
There is a sign where you parked that explains that the space you parked in is for people
with a permit.
You were issued a PCN for parking without a permit that was both valid and clearly
displayed. Even if you have a permit, you have to display it so that a Civil Enforcement
Officer (CEO) can see all its details.
I note your representations stating that you were in the process of trying to arrange
the correct permit for this vehicle, and that the Council's permits department were slow
to respond, but that did not authorise you to park in a permit holder's space until this
was resolved.
If you did not have a valid permit to display as required at the time this PCN was
incurred, you should have parked at an alternative location, as you were not exempt from
this restriction.
You have 28 days from the date of this letter being served to:
• pay £140.00; or
• appeal to the Parking Adjudicator using the enclosed form. The Adjudicator can ask one
side to pay costs if he or she believes, for example, that they have been wholly unreasonable. However, the Adjudicator rarely asks either side to pay costs. The
Adjudicator is independent and both sides must accept the Adjudicator's decision.
If you do nothing
If, after 28 days, you have taken no action, we may send you a Charge Certificate increasing
the charge from £140.00 to £210.00. You will then have 14 days to pay the increased
charge. If, after the 14 days, you have not paid the increased charge, we may apply to the
County Court to recover the money - plus court costs - from you.
How to pay:
• online at www.harrow.gov.uk/pcn and click 'Pay'.
• by phone on (020) 8424 1220
Yours sincerely
Parking Representations Officer

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Hi, I have now received two rejections from my appeal and being told I have 28 days for an independent appeal. Pls find the letter attached. Any help and guidance would be gratefully received, thank you.

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Obviously I know the difference in pounds is 70 pounds I was just asking if there was any difference in terms of the appeal process all the people who are going to be reading the appeal, and why would they treat it any differently to the first appeal?

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What is the difference between the first appeal at £70 and the appeal I'm about to do at £140?

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Could someone please advise if the representation has to be made by post only? Can it be done online? Also what is the deadline if the notice letter says 18/08 (date of nto)? on it?

Many thanks!

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OK I will just give it a shot and see what happens. As you say they seem correctly served, thays not in dispute really, let's see what happens, I'm asking for a bit of leniency towards a resident who was in discussion over a permit when I was ticketed. Let's see what happens I guess

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I have already posted those...

Does anyone have any advice on how I should proceed?

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OK so any tips on how to appeal this? What I should include the angle to come in from etc?

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I'm not sure one can haggle on payments with the council?

The second one says "on hold", not sure what that means.

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Thank you, I just spoke to the dealer I bought the car from and he sent me the link for requesting coc from BMW!

But how do I proceed regarding the councils fines...?

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Or should I just pay them £280 and be done with it?

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So at the end of all this messaging your conclusion is that I've just been a very naughty boy and I need to pay up and not bother the council? Just because I've not posted the conversations between myself and the council.

I'm not sure why things are so unclear for you, I've summarised it several times, there isn't really a need to post every email conversation, you just need to trust me - I tried to get a permit, it wasn't the correct price band so I asked them to please lower it, to which they said no. I tried lots of times and whilst doing so I got two tickets.

There isn't anything they said thst jumps out, they said it would be unfair to other residents if they lowered my tarrif without the proper certification from bmw. They refused the mot version of my emissions and also refused my like for like auto trader comparison.

Nothing more to this really. They were super slow to respond sometimes over 2 weeks. My permit ran out in March not January. Even if it was January, it doesn't matter really - I syarted discussions on January.

Does anyone have any useful advise for me?

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