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Just to close this, I decided to pay the discounted PCN. Thank you for all your help.

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I combined JohnUK and MrMustard for my challenge:
Reason for appeal: 'I was not at the location on the day'

This PCN alleges the vehicle was parked o/s 85 Derwent Road. As your own photos clearly show it was not parked outside or near 85 Derwent Road.
You will be aware that a PCN must show the correct location. I was not waiting at the location alleged on the PCN and accordingly the vehicle was not in contravention. As it does not, I look forward to receiving your early cancellation.

I also attached an image of the traffic order highlighting the location of 85 Derwent Road (and cropped out fox Lane 85)

The reasoning, I parked there over night. Im not justifying as i accept i am at fault, but It is often busy and other do it too, there were 2 on this occasion.  I have parked there many times, as it happened on this occasion I was running 10 minutes late saw the CEO drive off.

Once the NtK is sent the "discounted sum is not available "

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Unfortunately, but as I expected, Enfield  NSL are not prepared to cancel the PCN. They plainly state the location as Derwent Road and no mention to the house number. It feels like a generic response to a 01 contravention challenge with no acknowledgement to my content. (Council response)

As I understand it, the next stage is a formal appeal to the council and if that fails it can move on to the tribunal.

As I am now out of the country on holiday and with only the location to challenge. I am leaning towards paying the reduced fine.

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Thanks for your suggestions. I have gone for the simplified version and submitted a challenge. Now for time to take its course.

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I'm pretty sure right turn YBJ exemptions are against oncoming traffic. This junction is run by filtered light sequences so there is no oncoming traffic in the OPs instance. For example, It would be valid if coming from the North Finchley side (bottom left on the image) and wanting to turn right down Nether Street where OP came from. I can't cite sources but seem to remember coming across this when I previously appealed a 31J contravention

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With the help of my AI friend how is this for an appeal?
If possible, would it be worth adding image evidence such as the traffic order map highlighting the actual 85 Derwent Road


I am writing to appeal against the issuance of PCN EF11590749, issued on 17/07/25, for an alleged contravention on Derwent Road N13 os 85.

Upon reviewing the notice and the location details provided, I must raise concern regarding the accuracy of the location as stated in the PCN. The alleged contravention is reported to have occurred “outside 85 Derwent Road.” However, house number 85 is not situated on Derwent Road, but on Fox Lane, which intersects with Derwent Road. The house referenced (number 85) is positioned on the corner and has its official address on Fox Lane, not Derwent Road.

Furthermore, number 85 Derwent Road is located further down the street and was not in proximity to the location where the alleged contravention took place. This discrepancy in the recorded location raises doubt about the correctness of the PCN, as the stated location does not match where the vehicle was parked.

As such, I respectfully request that this PCN be reviewed and cancelled on the grounds of incorrect or misleading location information, which affects the validity of the charge and fails to clearly identify the place of the alleged contravention.

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I know this junction well! Others may be able to dissect the PCN for inconsistencies but in terms of the contravention it unfortunately looks pretty clear. Although you are turning right against oncoming traffic, it is run by traffic lights. The box is painted visibly and perhaps a little awkward there is visibility to the right.   

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Yes, I am the registered keeper.

That's a good spot on the location. Although on Derwent Road not at the specified number. However, I assume the council would reject the appeal. This leaves it to the adjudicators discretion. I will do some research later on the tribunal. A slight issue is Im off on holiday soon so won't be able to recieve postal communications.

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Here is the PCN https://imgur.com/a/p4oSso7

And GSV

I know I shouldn't have parked there and will accept paying the fine if it comes to it.

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Hi,

I haven't listed the details as this may be applicable to any LTN.

I was wondering if there is any grounds to challenge a PCN I received. Contravention code 01. I parked on a double yellow line. It used to be a minor road joining a major road but now is a dead end because an LTN has been placed at the end of the minor road. The road blocks are planters with a bollard to allow cyclists through.

The double yellow would have initially been to keep the junction clear. Now its not a junction does that matter? Can they essentially be arbitrarily placed? The only grounds I can think are to keep clear a turning space for the dead end.

Many thanks,
Al

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I'm not familiar with Leeds or your occurrence but looking at maps I see Foley Tap House (in your pictures) on the corner of E Parade and The Headrow which would mean the location could be correct

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