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Yes I used your response - is there anything to change when appealing to the tribunal?

Thanks!

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Hello again,

I have had my appeals back from Waltham Forest council and unfortunately they have doubled down on their reasoning for the pcn saying that the controlled zone signs are sufficient

Is it worth taking this to the tribunal as I believe my defence is solid?

Thanks!

https://imgur.com/a/IPPkf8K

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How does this sound?

I am writing to formally challenge the PCN FR65684022 for my vehicle registration number WX17XTA

The contravention alleges that I parked in a permit holders only bay without a valid permit, however the bay in question had no visible sign indicating a restriction. While other bays along the same road display permit holder only signs, this one does not. Your wardens own photographs confirm no sign was present.

My initial appeal was rejected as they stated that Controlled parking zone entry signs tell you when the parking rules apply in the zone, however these do not apply to marked bays, only to single yellow lines. With no sign on the bay, the PCN is not valid.

The CEO has also failed in their duty under Regulation 18 of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996 (LATOR) to maintain the signs. In addition, the duties of their CEOs demand that they report missing signs and not serve PCNs to any cars parked therein.

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yes 2x live pcn

I've had 2x nto but theyre both the same. The car didn't move between receiving the first and second pcn.

Attached photo of the other one here


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I actually received 2 PCN's back to back for the same thing. I just noticed they mentioned the warning one on the appeal of the second letter. Attached here.

Does this change my appeal at all?





Thanks!

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Thanks both for your advice!

I've attached more photos of the bay in question that I took on the day as well as showing some cars receiving a blue warning notice (£0.00) and others receiving a yellow pcn (£160). Any advice on wording to put into my appeal?

Thanks!!










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Hi all

I have received 2x PCN from Waltham Forest council for parking in a permit holders only bay without a permit. Only problem is the bay in question does not have a sign on. Other bays on the same road do have a permit holder only sign on a lamppost or fence nearby.

I have previously received a blue warning notice for parking in this bay with the amount on the pcn being £0.00

I appealed the fine stating both of these reasons and have received the following response from the council, basically stating that because there is a general zone sign in the area that the  bays do not need to have individual permit holder only signs on them.

My initial appeal:

I am writing to formally challenge the issuance of PCN issued on 14 June 2025 for my vehicle, registration WX17 XTA.
The PCN states that I was parked in a permit holders-only bay; however, there were no visible signs in the vicinity clearly indicating that this area is restricted to permit holders. The absence of appropriate signage meant I could not reasonably have known that parking was restricted at this location.
In addition, other vehicles parked in the same area at the same time received a blue PCN with a penalty of £0, whereas I received a yellow PCN with a fine of £160. This indicates inconsistent enforcement and raises serious concerns about fairness and clarity in the application of parking restrictions.
As per the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions (TSRGD), motorists must be clearly informed of any restrictions through adequate signage. In this case, the lack of clear signage fails to meet this requirement, making the restriction unenforceable.
I kindly request you review this matter and cancel the PCN on the grounds of:
* Inadequate or missing signage at the location
* Inconsistent enforcement across similarly parked vehicles
* Lack of fair notice, making the restriction unclear
Please find attached:
* Photographs of the area showing the absence of signage
* Photos of the blue PCNs issued to other vehicles
I look forward to your response and a fair review of my case.
Yours sincerely,



Attached the rejected appeal letter from them below






I have now received a NTK which I am planning on appealing as I feel this is unfair. Any advice welcomed!



Streetview link, arrow pointing to the bay in question: https://maps.app.goo.gl/jvd6Qh6FxKpLmXMTA



Thanks

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