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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet Council - 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone - Crescent Road Nor
« on: July 11, 2025, 03:23:56 pm »
Hi Incandescent,

Thank you for your feedback you've raised some very valid points, which I will definitely take into account.

That said, on the specific day(s) in question, there may have been vehicles or other obstructions blocking the sign, which could have contributed to the oversight.

As you rightly mentioned, this is ultimately something I would need to convince the adjudicator of at London Tribunals, should I choose to proceed down that route. I would also argue that the sign’s size and low placement made it difficult to notice.

Would you be able to suggest any specific wording I should use when submitting the initial appeal for the first PCN?

Additionally, I’ve now received a second PCN. Could you advise on how best to reference the first one in order to strengthen my appeal or request cancellation of the second?

Thanks,

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet Council - 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone - Crescent Road Nor
« on: July 10, 2025, 10:24:57 am »
Dear Incandescent,

I realised that I have not included the photo with reference to ""The problem is that there is an advance sign on the street you approached to make the right-hand turn into the restricted street."

On my approach, this sign was obscured by a tree, as shown in the image I’ve attached. In my opinion, the sign’s small size and low visibility made it easy to miss, and I did not have adequate time to notice, read, and process the information it displayed.
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please see - https://imgur.com/a/YVj9xGz

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Barnet Council - 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone - Crescent Road Nor
« on: July 10, 2025, 10:19:46 am »
Dear Incandescent,

Thank you for your reply, and greatly appreciated.

While I did rely on Google Maps for navigation, I fully acknowledge that it is the driver's responsibility to observe and comply with all road rules, and I do not dispute this.

Regarding your point: "The problem is that there is an advance sign on the street you approached to make the right-hand turn into the restricted street."

On my approach, this sign was obscured by a tree, as shown in the image I’ve attached. In my opinion, the sign’s small size and low visibility made it easy to miss, and I did not have adequate time to notice, read, and process the information it displayed.

Best regards,



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Barnet Council - 53J Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone - Crescent Road North O
« on: July 10, 2025, 12:10:06 am »
Hi all,

I’m seeking some advice regarding a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) I recently received for an alleged traffic contravention, specifically, entering a pedestrian zone during restricted hours.
The restrictions for the zone are as follows:
Monday to Friday:
8:00 – 9:00 AM


2:45 – 3:45 PM


The PCN states that my vehicle entered the zone on 01/07/2025 at 08:34 AM.
On that day, I was dropping my daughter off at Finchley Memorial Hospital for her work experience. I relied on Google Maps for navigation, as I was unfamiliar with the area and wanted to ensure she arrived on time. Unfortunately, I was unaware of the local restrictions.
After receiving the PCN, I revisited the route and location and now believe I may have grounds to appeal due to inadequate signage. My reasons are as follows (in no particular order):
The font size on the restriction signs is too small to be clearly legible while driving.


The positioning and angle of the sign when turning right makes it easy to miss and difficult to read.


The sign appears to be damaged, split vertically in the middle which further impacts visibility and legibility.


The sign on the opposite side, near the corner, is fully obscured by tree foliage and easily missed.


Another sign on the approach road is similarly obscured by a tree and lacks sufficient prominence.


These observations are supported by both the photos included in the PCN and additional photographs I took when revisiting the location after receiving the notice.
Additionally, as I was unaware of the restriction at the time, I’ve now seen on the online portal that further PCNs may have been issued for the same contravention on subsequent days although I have not yet received the physical notices.
From what I’ve read in other posts, it appears that it may be possible to request the cancellation of any subsequent PCNs by referencing the initial one, particularly if they relate to the same ongoing issue and were incurred before I was made aware of the restriction.
I would appreciate any guidance on whether these points form a reasonable basis for an appeal, and if so, how best to frame my response.

Many thanks in advance for your help.



PCN - https://imgur.com/a/deA7Jvr
PCN Images - https://imgur.com/a/deA7Jvr
Google maps - https://maps.app.goo.gl/Mof2KX7aU7GrLseJ8

Photo turning right - https://imgur.com/a/deA7Jvr

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