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Please see reply from council and advise asap if I can appeal ?PENALTY CHARGE NOT ICE JK17897929DATE OF CONT RAVENT ION Thursday, January 01, 2026 03:41VERIFICAT ION CODEVEHICLE REGIST RAT ION MARK LN25YKGLOCAT ION RYE LANE JUNCTION HANOVER PARKCONT RAVENT ION 52m - Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicleAMOUNT OUTST ANDING £80.00Notice of Rejection of Representations - Road Traffic Act 1991 (as amended)London Local Authorities Acts 1990 - 2003CCTV - Moving Traffic ContraventionsDear Sir Or MadamThank you for writing to us.We have carefully considered what you say but we have decided not to cancel your PCN.We sent you a PCN because our CCTV camera evidence shows your vehicle going where motor vehicles are not allowed.The sign is round, white and has a red border. Within the circle, pictures of a motorcycle and motor vehicle indicate thatthese types of vehicle are not permitted to use the route.The wording accompanying the restriction signs says, “Except for loading 7am – 10am and buses and taxis”. This meansthat vehicles may use the route for the purpose of loading or unloading goods (this does not include passengers) between7am and 10am, and that buses and taxis are permitted to use the route.You have stated in your representations that you are a licensed Bolt private hire driver and was engaged in a live, prebooked journey at the time of this alleged contravention. The passenger’s pickup location was beyond the restrictedjunction, and there was no safe or practical alternative route. You attempted to avoid entering the junction, but a vehicledirectly behind me—also a private hire vehicle—blocked your turn. You asked the driver to reverse, but they refused, statingthey were allowed to pick up as taxis. The signage at the junction was unclear as to whether it applied to private hirevehicles or only licensed taxis, which caused further confusion. You contacted the passenger to see if they could move to analternative pickup point. They were unwell and felt unsafe walking, particularly at that time and location, so relocating wasnot an option. however, this is not a situation that would result in cancellation of the penalty charge.Due to the shape of the junction where the restriction is located and the limited visibility of the restriction signs prior toreaching the junction, there are large advance warning signs prominently displayed on Hanover Park, approximately 100mand 30m before the junction. The warning signs are clearly visible and provide sufficient time for motorists to alter theircourse to avoid a contravention.27/02/2026 73B610There are warning signs on Hanover Park, approximately 100m and 30m before the junction. The warning signs are clearlyvisible and provide sufficient time for motorists to alter their course to avoid a contravention.The restriction signs and warning signs remain visible at night due to the ambient light of surrounding street lighting, and theyare reflectorized to appear brighter under the headlights of approaching vehicles.I have reviewed the contravention photographs and footage and, having taken into consideration your representations, I amsatisfied that the contravention occurred and the PCN was correctly issued.You can view photographs and footage of the contravention via the following website:https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-transport/parking/parking-tickets/pay-your-parking-ticket by clicking ‘payyour parking ticket online” then entering the PCN number and your VRMThe enclosed photos help to show why your PCN was issued.You have these choices:You can pay the discount charge of £80.00. You have 14 days beginning with the date that this letter is served on you.You can pay £160.00 if you miss the discount period. You have 28 days beginning with the date that this letter isserved on you.You can appeal against our decision to the London Tribunals Environment and Traffic Adjudicators. You have 28 days,or within such longer period as an adjudicator may allow, beginning with the date that this letter is served on you. Tomake your appeal please use the Appeal Form enclosed with this letter and please read the guidance notes beforecompleting the form. Appeals must be made to London Tribunals, PO Box 460, Hartlepool, TS24 4JE or online atwww.LondonTribunals.gov.uk. Please do not send your appeal to us. If you wish to make any enquiries about yourappeal, you can also visit the London Tribunals Environment and Traffic Adjudicators website atwww.LondonTribunals.gov.uk or call 020 7520 7200. If you lose your appeal, you will have to pay the full charge ratherthan the discount charge (unless the Adjudicator decides otherwise). The Adjudicator shall not normally make an orderawarding costs and expenses but may make such an order against either party if he is of the opinion that the party hasacted frivolously or vexatiously or that his conduct in making, pursuing or rejecting the appeal was wholly unreasonable,or against an enforcement authority where he considers that the disputed decision was wholly unreasonable. TheAdjudicator may only make an order awarding costs and expenses against a party, as detailed above, where thatparty has been given an opportunity of making representations against the making of the order.If you do nothingIf, after 28 days, you have taken no action, we may send you a Charge Certificate increasing the charge from £160.00 to£240.00. You will then have 14 days to pay the increased charge. If, after the 14 days, you have not paid the increasedcharge, we may apply to the County Court to recover the money - plus court costs - from you.How to pay:Internet By credit or debit card at https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-transport/parking/parkingtickets/pay-your-parking-ticket Please have your Penalty Charge Notice number and issue date, vehicle registrationnumber and your credit/debit card details available.Post By cheque or postal order only, payable to Southwark Parking Services. Please make sure you write the PenaltyCharge Notice number, vehicle registration number and your address on the back of the cheque or postal order, andsend it to: Southwark Parking Services, Admail 4197, London, SE1 1ZW.Do NOT send cash or make a credit card payment by post. Post-dated cheques will not be accepte

hi any update on this please?

The vehicle is hired. The PCN was initially sent to the hire company as the registered keeper, and they then passed liability to me, which is why I have only received it now.Also, you mentioned earlier that the restriction applies to “buses and taxis only”. Can someone please confirm whether this includes private hire vehicles, or whether it applies only to licensed hackney carriages (taxis)?

https://imgpile.com/p/QpKAykoHi everyone, I’d really appreciate some advice on how best to challenge this PCN.This PCN was issued for Contravention Code 52m at Rye Lane Junction / Hanover Park. At the time of the alleged contravention, I was carrying out a legitimate private hire job as a Bolt driver. I have full proof of the job, including pickup details and timestamps.There was no alternative way to pick up the customer other than going through this junction. The job itself clearly states this, and the pickup point could not be accessed from another route.I did see the restriction sign and initially attempted to turn around, but there was a vehicle directly behind me, also a private hire driver, who advised that access was allowed for pickups. Given the road layout and traffic situation, reversing or turning was not possible or safe.I also contacted the customer to ask if they could walk around to an alternative pickup point. They explained that they were not well enough to do so and felt it was not safe for them to walk around the back, particularly given the area and time.In short:I was on a live private hire bookingI have evidence of the jobThere was no reasonable alternative routeI attempted to avoid the restrictionThe customer could not safely relocateAccessing the junction was necessary to complete the bookingI would be grateful for advice on:Whether this falls under necessity / mitigationHow best to structure the initial representationsWhether to focus on procedural grounds, discretion, or evidence-based mitigationThanks in advance — any guidance would be massively appreciated.

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hi any update on this asap many thanks

I need to register my appeal on the Tribunal website, but I have not yet been given a hearing date. I am seeking guidance on what information I should include when completing the online appeal form, so any help with how to word my submission would be greatly appreciated.

hi any update on this please asap

https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/IV3DDtu_xl.jpgMy appeal has now been rejected by the council and the case is being escalated to the tribunal. I have prepared some key points for the tribunal stage, which I’d be grateful for you to review. Any guidance or suggestions you can offer would be very much appreciated. Many thanks.Ground: Procedural Impropriety — PCN served out of timeI appeal on the ground that the PCN was served out of time, amounting to a procedural impropriety.The alleged contravention occurred on 24 June 2025.The PCN served on me was issued on 16/18 September 2025, an elapsed period of 87 days.Under the Traffic Management Act 2004, and the Civil Enforcement of Parking Contraventions (England) Representations and Appeals Regulations, the maximum permitted period for serving a Regulation 10 PCN is 28 days unless one of the limited exceptions applies.In its Notice of Rejection, the council claims:> “The initial PCN went out to the registered keeper… they came back to say the vehicle was on hire.”This appears to be an attempt to rely on the “vehicle-hire firm / transfer of liability” exception.However, the council has provided none of the legally required evidence that must be produced before the exception can apply. The law requires:1. A copy of the hiring agreement;2. A copy of any signed statement of liability by the hirer;3. A copy of the original keeper’s representations;4. A copy of the council’s Notice of Acceptance to the keeper.None of these documents were supplied with the Notice of Rejection, nor at any point previously.Without these mandatory documents, the council cannot rely on the hire-vehicle provisions. Accordingly, the PCN served on me is out of time, and therefore void.I respectfully request that the adjudicator direct the council to cancel the PCN.Without prejudice to the above, I also note that I was a licensed PCO driver and briefly stopped for under ten seconds solely to allow a mobility-impaired passenger to exit safely. However, I do not rely on this point unless necessary, as the PCN must be cancelled due to late service.

please can you check the reply and offer any suggestions many thanksSubject: Response to Parking Charge Notice [STN1350423]Dear Sir or Madam,I am writing as the hirer of the vehicle in relation to the above Parking Charge Notice.Your notice was received on [29/10/2025], almost [ 84 days] after the alleged parking event on [07/08/2025]. This is well outside the timeframe allowed under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) for transferring liability to the keeper or hirer.Furthermore, APCOA has previously confirmed in many cases that it does not rely on PoFA to establish keeper or hirer liability. As such, there is no legal basis to pursue me as the hirer.I am the Hirer. APCOA cannot hold a Hirer liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, APCOA will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because Stansted Airport is not 'relevant land'.If Stansted Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because APCOA is not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for APCOA’s own profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and APCOA has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.The Hirer cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. APCOA have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.I therefore request that this charge be cancelled immediately. Please confirm this in writing. Should you disagree, please provide evidence of full compliance with all relevant PoFA provisions, including copies of any documentation received from the hire company that meet the statutory requirements.Kind regards,

Many thanks for your reply much appreciated

Hi any update please

Yes the vehicle is hired so only received the notice now

https://imgur.com/a/9f3U1elI have drafted a appeal for the above pcn please advise if ok or anything else I can add to strengthen the case many thanks Grounds of Representation – PCN HGB204686AAlleged contravention: 24/06/2025PCN issued: 16/09/2025 (almost 3 months later)Under the Traffic Management Act 2004, a postal PCN must normally be served within 28 days. This delay is a procedural impropriety.Additional circumstances:I am a PCO driver (TfL Private Hire).Passenger had mobility difficulties – could not walk properly.Station Rd / Balgores Rd is a very busy road; stopping elsewhere would have been dangerous.I stopped at the bus stop stand only to allow a safe drop-off.The stop was under 10 seconds, as can be seen in the video. I moved away immediately.I had no intention to park or obstruct.

Hi All thanks for your reply it's says on the letter I may be eligible for a course will they offer me that ?