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Hi @cp8759 , thanks for your offer.

How confident are you that we will win the appeal?

I'm very busy at the moment, quite a lot of stress in my work, and while I'd absolutely like us to win this, I would not want to be in a position of losing and having to pay more than the 'reduced' £65.

Also I have to ask myself if the time it would take to get this appeal done, would 'cost' me more than £65 in time and stress.

Let me know your thoughts, thanks

OK I've submitted my challenge - fingers crossed for an easy win, as you say Neil B.

Here is the screen I was given after submitting, if that's of any use.
https://imgur.com/a/UO5rEaI

Thanks again CP8759 for the draft, and everyone else for your advice, I'll come back when they have responded.

Thank you all for your responses- I've been away for 10 days on a very busy job, so catching up on things now.

Here is the amended PCN with address removed.
https://imgur.com/a/7DGe16z

Neil B - thanks for your draft letter of representation.

In terms of making this representation- do I respond as the a) driver, b) keeper, or c) driver and keeper? (if it makes any difference)

Also please take a look at this screen grab. Is there anything else you'd add?
I've categorised my representation as 'other' on all options- I think that's correct.
Do I need to add any supporting evidence, refer to the date of the new (unlawful) PCN or is short and sweet the key thing here?

https://imgur.com/a/p5azw0W

thanks
Chris

OK so this would explain it... I received a letter today to my current address, with the same PCN as before.
It has given me 14 days since date of letter (22 sept) to pay at the reduced £65 rate.

So it looks like there is some kind of address-checking system at play, and having found an updated address, they have reset the clock and sent it to my current address.

Unexpected but there we go. 

Does anyone think I have A good chance at disputing the PCN?

For the reasons below... My principles say I should dispute, but I would appreciate anyone's opinion on likelihood of a 'win' before I put any more time into it.

Many thanks
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(apologies for the caps)

ON THE DATE OF THE CONTRAVENTION, I DROVE FROM MY HOME IN BRISTOL TO A JOB IN LONDON.
ON ARRIVAL AFTER A 2.5 HOUR JOURNEY I SAW THAT THERE WAS A SOME KIND OF ‘NO ENTRY TO TRAFFIC’ SIGN TO BOUVERIE ROAD, WHERE MY JOB WAS LOCATED.

IN ORDER TO AVOID THIS I DROVE DOWN STOKE NEWINGTON CHURCH STREET TRYING TO FIND A ROUTE TO ENTER BOUVERIE ROAD FROM THE OTHER END (GRAYLING ROAD). WHILST TRYING TO FIND THIS ROUTE I UNWITTINGLY DROVE THROUGH THIS OTHER SIGN AND WAS CAUGHT ON THE CAMERA. THIS REINFORCES MY BELIEF THAT IN LONDON, AS A DRIVER YOU HAVE A TARGET ON YOUR BACL AND WILL INEVITABLY BE CAUGHT FOR SOMETHING.

IN SUMMARY, WHILST TRYING TO COMPLY WITH STRICTLY ENFORCED YET UNCLEAR RULES IN AN UNFAMILIAR NEIGHBOURHOOD, I GOT CAUGHT ANYWAY.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN UNJUSTIFIED PUNISHMENT, AND FOR THIS REASON I WOULD LIKE THE CHARGE TO BE CANCELLED.

Hi quick update - I'm filling out the PE3 form, and this is what I've put in the appeal box.

I'm aware that this form is more for the fact that I didn't get the PCN in time to make an appeal, but I thought it was worth adding my appeal info for the original contravention.
I'm aware they may not give a damn about my reasons, but could you give your thoughts on this please?
Anything that might help me with some kind of reasonable / compassionate response to this unclear yet strictly enforced traffic system.
thanks (sorry for the Caps - the form says I had to write in caps)

I DID NOT RECEIVE THE PCN UNTIL AFTER THE 28 DAY APPEAL WINDOW HAD PASSED. IT WAS SENT TO
MY OLD ADDRESS. I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AFTER THE OWNER GOT IN TOUCH TO SAY I HAD A
FEW LETTERS.
I HAVE SINCE FOUND OUT THAT EVEN THOUGH I UPDATED MY DRIVING LICENCE TO MY NEW ADDRESS,
THE V5C HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED, AND THIS IS WHY IT WAS SENT TO MY OLD ADDRESS. I’VE HEARD
THIS IS COMMON AND CATCHES A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT.
ON DISCOVERING THIS IMMEDIATELY WENT AND UPDATED MY V5C DETAILS TO MY CURRENT ADDRESS.

ON THE DATE OF THE CONTRAVENTION, I DROVE FROM MY HOME IN BRISTOL TO A JOB IN LONDON.
ON ARRIVAL I SAW THAT THERE WAS A SOME KIND OF ‘NO ENTRY TO TRAFFIC’ SIGN TO
BOUVERIE ROAD, WHERE MY JOB WAS LOCATED.
SO TO AVOID THIS I DROVE DOWN STOKE NEWINGTON CHURCH STREET TRYING TO FIND A ROUTE TO ENTER BOUVERIE ROAD FROM THE OTHER END (GRAYLING ROAD). WHILST TRYING TO FIND THIS ROUTE I UNWITTINGLY DROVE THROUGH THIS OTHER SIGN AND WAS CAUGHT ON THE CAMERA. THIS MAKES ME FEEL THAT IN LONDON, AS A DRIVER ‘YOU JUST CAN’T WIN’ AND WILL INEVITABLY BE CAUGHT FOR SOMETHING.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHILST TRYING TO COMPLY WITH STRICTLY ENFORCED YET UNCLEAR RULES IN AN UNFAMILIAR NEIGHBOURHOOD, I GOT CAUGHT ANYWAY.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS JUSTIFIED PLEASE?

DESPITE FEELING LIKE I HAVE BEEN UNFAIRLY PUNISHED,  I AM HAPPY TO PAY THE £65 FEE ORIGINALLY REQUESTED AND JUST GET IT OVER WITH.
PLEASE CAN YOU HELP ME TO GET TO THIS STAGE.

Hi - I just found out that I had received a PCN from Hackney Council for '52m Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of vehicle (motor vehicles)'

I'm from Bristol, was driving to a job in Stoke Newington and was actually looking for a way to get into Bouverie road, which has a no-entry camera (probably a LTN thing). It's super annoying to get this when I was already trying to find a way into the road which wouldn't involved getting caught by a camera.

See here for the PCN images
https://imgur.com/a/sITbKIF

To view images, go here:
https://hackney.gov.uk/menu/#parking-and-transport
PCN no. QZ14186291
Reg. CP12 ZGV

The video does not play for some reason.

The PCN was issued to my previous address - only found out about this as a friend now lives at that address.

It's likely a case of having updated my driving license, but not updated the V5C.
I have now updated V5C as of today.

Please can I have some advice on appealing the PCN?

- How possible is it to appeal given I don't live in London, and unfamiliar with this unclear and draconian driving penalties?

- OR is it possible to appeal to pay the £65 reduced fee, given that the PCN was not received until it was past the 14 day window.

The sum is currently set to £195 which is a punishment that far outweighs any wrongdoing.

many thanks