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Hello senior members - apologies - did anyone get a chance to view this latest post ? Any inputs would be much appreciated thanks

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Hi Quick update for everyone — including @H C Andersen, @John U.K., and @mrmustard who have been involved earlier in my case -

I’ve now received the Notice to Owner, which arrived today (10 June) but is dated 4 June, so I’ve already lost 6 days of the 28-day response window.

Here is the document attached

Would appreciate advice on next steps. Should I now proceed with formal representations using the “contravention did not occur due to circumstances beyond my control” angle, as previously discussed (hospitalisation, caring duties, inability to return home), or do I need to reframe anything further at this stage?

Thanks again

https://ibb.co/k6PjVZ4S

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Hi mrmustard, thank you for your offer of help and for watching my thread. I appreciate your willingness to assist pro bono and your impressive success rate. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, including John U.K. and H C Andersen and stamfordman, for their advice and support. I'm sorry for the delay in responding - yesterday was a challenging day as I was in the hospital with my father. I'll definitely keep your offer in mind and email you once I receive the Notice to Owner. Thank you again for your support.

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hi @ H C Andersen - then what should be my next steps - was waiting for others to chip in as you said but haven't had any traction since.

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thanks - I did submit it to them in the first account - but they totally seem to have disregarded it

https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK

are we able to submit another (These being:
You weren't there to move the car. You had not planned to remain at the hospital but that due to the circumstances(which you will set out) you could not return to move your car.

And, as it happens, the battery or whatever was flat therefore even if you had returned it is questionable whether you could have arranged to move the car in time.)

or do i have to wait for the next stage

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hi @ H C Andersen thanks for picking this up as a Hero member.

no other vehicle - my neighbour gave us a lift

The car in question was parked correctly in a permit holder space on 13 April.
A suspension came into effect on 14th.
At some time on 13th you had to take your father to the hospital in the second car where you remained with him until he was discharged on 14th after a PCN had been issued because no-one was in the house to move the car before the suspension came into effect.
Ans : you are absolutely right in the sequence of events


The reason the car in contravention wasn't moved is because no-one was there to move it, or have I got this wrong?
Ans : you are absolutely right

why you stayed with your father overnight and into the next day. If the answer is because he's your father and at that time returning home to move a b****y car was not your No.1 priority, then so be it!
Ans : you are absolutely right
To add the other reason is also because he is 77 and was not even in a position to talk to doctors or knows about the medication that he is taking (bit of alzheimers dementia) I am his carer and because of his condition he feels safe around me and the hospital / doctors do not function without my presence - hope that clarifies

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thanks @stam - i will go on as well

code technicality - is that a valid ground for appeal ?

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thanks a ton @JOHN for the reply

Please also note : that i was in the hospital with my father for 30+ hours - so couldnt move the car on Monday (when the restriction was in place as i was just not there) apologies didnt mention it before but it is in the attachments an overnight stay (date admitted and date discharged) in A&E

The next document is the Notice to Owner (NtO) which will be despatched anytime now.
Ans : so just hold on till then? it will increase to 160£ it says

Are you the Registered Keeper, and does the V5 have the correct name & addresss on it?
Ans : yes - registered keeper and V5 has correct name and address

Once the NtO is issued, please post it here.
Ans : Will do

I agree with Stamf - Newham's behaviour is despicable.
Ans : thanks,

However, have you any evidence of repair/replacement of the battery? If no involvement by RAC/AA,garage &C., and managed a jump-start could you get a statement from the person who provuided the jump-start?
Ans : I was waiting for my friend to provide a jump-start for me - he tried but it didnt work - so i ordered this from amazon - please find attached but as you can see the date it was delivered was 1 May - council will say not within 24 hours - so not acceptable :

https://ibb.co/k6Wm550w

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hi please can someone help : 1st post to the site - I have uploaded all info - The council’s insistence on a VAT breakdown report is wholly inappropriate given the life-threatening medical emergency that necessitated the parking contravention - they seem to totally disregard the hospital emergency and insist on a VAT report - At no point would any reasonable person prioritise parking paperwork over a life-threatening crisis but i dont know how to go about it - please can experts guide? thanks in advance

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

GSV LINK:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5399869,0.05295,3a,75y,163.21h,88.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.98352851365604%26panoid%3DKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw%26yaw%3D163.20863465007477!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D

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@ stamfordman -

yes i am a permit holder

Newham - shouldn't be using temp traffic order orders to suspend parking bays.

it seems they changed the law in Dec 2024 - and they are allowed to do that

What was the purpose of the order? Were you aware of the sign(s) before?
yes i was aware of the sign and thought will do it on Sunday evening when non-residents take away thier cars from the neighbouring street where this sign was not put up


What was wrong with the car?
battery dead

Have you got a close up picture of the yellow sign
no but it said for cutting trees branches and leaves - but there was no tree above this car - which is why they didnt move my car or impound my car

Post the PCN.
PCN and other docs posted

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

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hi thanks and apologies Moderator I have now redacted personal details and uploaded files to

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

I saw you did it for me as well or was it stamfordman - thanks to both of you

@stamfordman - replying to you now - sorry for the delay - moderator had asked a change in post

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hi please can someone help : 1st post to the site - I have uploaded all info - The council’s insistence on a VAT breakdown report is wholly inappropriate given the life-threatening medical emergency that necessitated the parking contravention - they seem to totally disregard the hospital emergency and insist on a VAT report -
At no point would any reasonable person prioritise parking paperwork over a life-threatening crisis but i dont know how to go about it - please can experts guide? thanks in advance
Also adding that i was in the hospital with my father for 30+ hours - apologies didnt mention it before but it is in the attachments an overnight stay in A&E

https://ibb.co/1JLFbK7j
https://ibb.co/HfJ6cj6Z
https://ibb.co/Tq1K4XMK
https://ibb.co/Fbf0Wkp3

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5399869,0.05295,3a,75y,163.21h,88.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.98352851365604%26panoid%3DKNqVHusnfgdsb8-4k0myiw%26yaw%3D163.20863465007477!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDUwNy4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNDUzSAFQAw%3D%3D

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