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Private parking tickets / Re: Moorside Legal - Private Parking Charge
« on: December 10, 2025, 01:42:09 pm »
I recently received a Letter of Claim from Moorside Legal and responded to it by emailing help@moorsidelegal.co.uk with the information noted above. However, I then received an automated reply stating that the mailbox is not monitored. I had CC’d myself on the original email, so I know it was sent successfully.

Should I submit my response through their online portal instead, or is it safe to disregard the automated message?

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Received the following automated email reply from Moorside:

Thank you for contacting Moorside Legal.

Please be advised that this mailbox is not monitored. We request that you access our online portal at https://portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk and follow the instructions provided to submit your enquiry.


Alternatively, you may contact us by telephone on 0330 822 9950 between the hours of 9:00am and 5:30pm, Monday to Friday.


Third parties
If you are contacting us on behalf of someone else, we will need their authority before we can speak with you. They can provide us with this authority by calling us on 0330 822 9950 or by writing to us confirming their full name, address, reference number, your full name, and that they consent to us sharing their personal data with you.

Alternative contact
For immediate payment, please visit https://portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk

If a claim has been issued
Please note that if a County Court Claim has been issued against you, sending an email or a portal request will not suspend or delay the proceedings. You must comply with any instructions issued by the Court to avoid a Judgment being entered against you. You may also wish to obtain independent legal or debt advice.


Yours sincerely
Moorside Legal

Do I access their online portal or ignore the email?

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Thanks again for your help @b789 - email sent. I'll keep you all updated with any response.

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Show us the Notice to Keeper (NtK) (both sides) that you received. We do not need to see any reminders or useless debt recovery letters.

The Letter of Claim from the utter incompetents at Moorside Legal is a template and you should respond to it with the following to help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

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Subject: Response to your Letter of Claim Ref: [reference number]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability.

2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations.

3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.

4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.

5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT.


I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).

If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).

Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.

Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]

Thanks for your reply, and apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

I wasn’t able to upload the image of the Moorside letter directly, but you can view it here:
https://us-noi.v-cdn.net/cdn-cgi/image/quality=80,format=auto,fit=scale-down,height=2000,width=2000/6031891/uploads/editor/4x/ay2cojhhu3dl.jpg

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Please post the latest letter you have received.

Is your address now still the same as it was at the time of the contravention - and was the address on your V5C reg doc correct at the time?

Thanks for your reply, and apologies for the delay in getting back to you.

I wasn’t able to upload the image of the Moorside letter directly, but you can view it here:
https://us-noi.v-cdn.net/cdn-cgi/image/quality=80,format=auto,fit=scale-down,height=2000,width=2000/6031891/uploads/editor/4x/ay2cojhhu3dl.jpg

To answer your questions:

I am still at the same address as at the time of the alleged contravention.

My V5C logbook is up to date and correctly shows this address.

If you need any further information, please let me know.

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Hi all, I’d really appreciate some advice on this situation.

I originally received a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) from Parking Control Management (UK) Ltd on 23rd July 2022 for stopping for less than 30 seconds to pick up my wife on Joseph Ray Road, Leytonstone, London E11. The area has criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road, but it is not a yellow box junction — it is not at a junction, and there are no intersecting roads there.

I didn’t appeal the PCN at the time and ignored the follow-up notices. I later received a letter from Trace Debt Recovery demanding £170 (pic included), with options to pay now, set up a payment plan, or risk escalation through their client’s solicitor.

Fast forward three years, and over the weekend I’ve now received a letter dated 24th November 2025 from Moorside Legal (pic included), acting on behalf of PCM Ltd, demanding payment of £170 for an “unpaid invoice.” The amount is exactly the same as the previous PCN debt recovery letters, but there is no reference to the original PCN number in the solicitor’s letter, so I’m assuming it relates to the same incident.

What should I do at this stage?

Any guidance on the best next steps would be hugely appreciated.

Thank you.




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Private parking tickets / Re: CPM PCN - Trinity Close, Leytonstone
« on: June 01, 2025, 07:42:04 pm »
Thank you for your response.

The PCN was issued to my father, who is the registered keeper and was also the driver at the time of the alleged offence.

I had previously been advised that with private parking companies, the general approach is to submit an initial appeal and then ignore any further correspondence. However, based on your explanation, it seems that may not be the correct course of action.

Could you please clarify what the recommended process is when dealing with a PCN from a private parking company? What steps should my father take now? Should he avoid appealing to the IAS and ignore all further communication from CPM, including any letters from bailiffs or debt collectors?

Your guidance would be greatly appreciated.

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Private parking tickets / Re: CPM PCN - Trinity Close, Leytonstone
« on: June 01, 2025, 06:12:39 pm »
I was under the impression that with private parking enforcement companies, the usual approach is to first respond to the PCN with an appeal—and then, if it’s rejected, you can simply ignore any further demands. Is that correct?

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Private parking tickets / CPM PCN - Trinity Close, Leytonstone
« on: June 01, 2025, 05:51:12 pm »
Hi, I'm hoping someone might be able to offer some advice. My father recently received a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) from UK CPM Ltd. We submitted an appeal, but unfortunately, it was rejected.


In their response, they advised that we could either pay the charge or escalate the appeal to the IAS (Independent Appeals Service) using their Standard Appeals process.


It has now been 13 days since we received the rejection, and we understand we have a total of 28 days to appeal to the IAS. We're looking for guidance on the best next steps to take.


Attached is the PCN, below is the initial appeal:


Dear Sir/Madam,


I am writing to formally appeal against the above-mentioned Parking Charge Notice issued to my father, the registered keeper of the vehicle, in relation to an incident that occurred on 23rd April 2025 at Trinity Close, London E11.


My father is a registered disabled person, an OAP, and a widower. He is nearly 80 years of age and is currently undergoing treatment for prostate cancer. He has also recently undergone knee surgery, which has significantly limited his mobility and ability to walk long distances. Furthermore, he was suffering from a severe urine infection at the time of the incident, which added to his physical distress.


On the day in question, my father needed urgent access to toilet facilities. Due to his urgent medical need and walking difficulties, he parked as close as possible to the community centre (Indian Muslim Federation Hall, Paul Shekleton House, 38 Trinity Cl, London E11 4RP), clearly displaying his valid Blue Badge on the dashboard. He was away from the vehicle for no more than 10 minutes.


Unfortunately, he did not realise that the road was privately managed and returned to find a Parking Charge Notice issued.


He did not park in a way that caused obstruction or posed a danger. This was a genuine medical emergency and his actions were both reasonable and necessary given his condition.


We respectfully request that you consider the circumstances with compassion and understanding. The Equality Act 2010 places a duty on service providers, including private parking operators, to make reasonable adjustments for disabled individuals. Issuing a charge under these circumstances, particularly to a vulnerable elderly person in distress, risks breaching these obligations and could be viewed as discriminatory.


In light of the above, I kindly request that the Parking Charge Notice be cancelled on compassionate, medical, and legal grounds. Supporting documents, including a copy of his Blue Badge and medical letters, can be provided upon request.


We look forward to your understanding and confirmation that this charge has been cancelled.


This was their rejection:


Dear Mr Ghulam Ali Adam,

Thank you for your appeal against the above Parking Charge Notice.

At UK CPM we consider all appeals on a case-by-case basis. We take each appeal very seriously and thoroughly investigate any evidence that has been provided. We appreciate your circumstances and understand this is not a situation anyone would like to find themselves in; however, these parking conditions have been put in place to ensure fair usage for all motorists and support the needs of our client. After careful consideration, it is unfortunate that I am writing to you today to advise that on this occasion, your appeal has been unsuccessful.

The decision to uphold your parking charge notice has been made on the following basis.
Whilst we note the comments and reason for appeal, as per our photographic evidence, the vehicle was parked in contravention of the advertised terms and conditions. As the vehicle was parked in an area where no parking is allowed, we can confirm that this PCN has been issued correctly.

Either due to the reason for issue and/or the insufficient evidence provided to support the details of your appeal, we have considered this PCN and found that it does not fall under the category of Annex F the Appeals Charter of the Single Code of Practice. Therefore, if no further evidence is provided, we will deem this to be our final decision.
You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure and therefore you now have two options; either pay or appeal to the Independent Appeals Service (IAS) - you cannot do both.

To make payment of the total amount due as shown above, please use one of the following payment options;
Online: www.paymyticket.co.uk
Telephone: 0345 463 4040 (24hr)
Post: Payments & Collections, PO Box 3114, Lancing, BN15 5BR

Alternatively, if you do not agree with your internal appeal outcome and you wish to dispute the matter further, as you have complied with our internal appeals procedure you may use, and we will engage with, the IAS Standard Appeals Service providing you lodge an appeal to them within 28 days of this rejection.

The Independent Appeals Service (www.theIAS.org) provides an Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type. If you decide to appeal to the IAS, you will need to visit their website and use your PCN reference and corresponding vehicle registration. All PCN's will be uploaded to the IAS website by the end of this working day.

If you appeal this charge further then you will lose the ability to pay at the reduced rate (if applicable). In the event that your IAS appeal is unsuccessful, the full amount for the PCN will then be payable. If you lodge an appeal with the IAS and then subsequently pay the charge prior to that appeal being determined, then the appeal will be withdrawn, and you will not be given a further opportunity to contest the charge.

If you do not wish to dispute the matter further and payment is not received within 28 days of the date of this correspondence then additional charges may be incurred, for which you may be liable. If the charge continues to remain outstanding, the matter may be later referred for litigation in the County Court which could result in a County Court Judgment being made against you; this may impact on your ability to obtain credit in the future.


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