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As expected, Redbridge have rejected the representations but their response does not appear to have properly considered them.

We should now like to appeal, so help would be appreciated in drafting the appropriate wording.

@cp8759 ?

https://1drv.ms/b/c/115d8d1fa1656300/ES8hqpCfgZ9El3yh62CZGIoBpqlc-dbe_jIGDQb8DUp5GA?e=nlGY1f

the NTO has now been received.

@cp8759 are you able to assist in drafting suitable representations to LBR please?

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgBjZaEfjV0RvGW3j8o2W92Ecupl?e=aUTUsb

As expected, @cp8759, the council have issued a rejection notice, rather quickly:-

https://1drv.ms/b/s!AgBjZaEfjV0RvCMA_MpohCjcxw__?e=nGWwYA

We will await the NTO and than make a formal appeal to the council.

I guess this may arrive when I'm away (25 June to 14 July) but I assume we will have a few weeks after then to appeal.

Help with drafting the appeal will be thankfully received.

@cp8759 what I meant was that the Order is mentioned on the pay meter and thus drawn to the attention of the driver. But I agree that no one would know what is in the order when parking and your point about the blue badge had crossed my mind.

I assume that the council will reject the reps, as they normally do, and we will then have to decide whether to take it to appeal. What do you think the chances are of a win?

I propose the following representations, any comments or suggestions please?

PCN No AF
Reg No
These are my representations against the above PCN
I reverse parked between two other cars and did not realise that my wheel was over the white line as I thought it was a parking space. When I returned to my car, the other cars had gone, revealing that my wheel was over the line.

At present, I do not believe that the PCN should have been issued.

I paid for a valid parking session within the instructions given on the tariff/ parking signage.

The regulations shown on the signage state:

“No parking on red or yellow lines, pavements, grassed areas or passing bays. Vehicles must not cause an obstruction. Failure to comply with the above will result in a PCN being issued”

There is nothing on the signage which requires cars to be parked properly in marked bays failing which a PCN will be issued. I therefore followed the regulations.

The signage also states that the car park is subject to the London Borough of Redbridge (off street parking places) Order 2013.

I have been unable to locate a copy of this order. It does not exist anywhere on the internet, it is not on the LBR website, I have contacted both the LBR offices and the central library at Ilford, neither of whom have a copy.

There is also a telephone number on the signage which states:
“For all enquiries please contact Vision RCL 020 8500 9911”
This gets you through to the boathouse at Fairlop Waters and they have no clue about the parking arrangements for the car park. Totally misleading.

I respectfully request that, as there appears to be nothing which directs a driver to park within the marked bays, the PCN is cancelled.

If you decide not to accept my representations, I require you to send me a copy of the aforementioned Order so that I can decide whether to appeal.

H T

Thank you H C Andersen for alerting me to that.

Here is the signage

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AgBjZaEfjV0Ru3TkiDnTT7xWTluR?e=cXoXkn

This makes reference to the London Borough of Redbridge (off street parking places) Order 2013 as amended. I've trawled through the internet but can't find it. Does anyone have access to it please or know where I can find it?

It also shows the "regulations" the breach of which gives rise to a PCN. As I've previously mentioned, these do not include parking properly in bays. Should they for it to be enforceable?



Here is the photo showing my daughter's car being parked outside the bay. She reverse parked between two other cars and didn't even see the marked bay at the time as it was hidden.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AgBjZaEfjV0Ru3UrtRFh5r_mrQ00?e=WuEI5Y

That's all my daughter sent me. I'll ask her for the reverse.

But what relevance is anything on the reverse to my question?