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Hi and thanks again for anyone reading.
I have spoken with STS this morning. So this web form they send is now apparently in lieu of the SD form. It has options for setting up fine payments as well as reopening other court proceedings. Option 5 is for completing an SD (or the equivalent) when you were unaware of proceedings. As I’m outside the 21 days to keep things moving, I’m leaving my plea as guilty to the original offence on the proviso the FTF is expunged (although probably not ideal. I’ll follow up with an email to them explaining my error but I don’t want to start again with a new form - I can’t amend the one submitted. It can be up to six months before I get a response from the courts apparently.. I’ll keep you updated.

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Thanks for the reply. I think I’ll ring STS tomorrow and see if I can sort this mess out!!

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Thank you for removing the personal details. Remiss of me. Ok so I’ll get this form cancelled and just fill in and submit an SD. Although I’m now outside the 21 days…

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It’s an Options after a magistrates' court decision form and I’m giving a statement of truth. It’s what the call centre told me to do when I explained the situation and told me this would reopen the case and allow me to go to court to hopefully get the result under discussion.

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Thank you for the response. I’ll have to see if I can amend the form then otherwise I’m scuppered.

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Hi again!
I’ve presumed that the form - a screenshot attached in previous post - is the SD - or at least the initial submission. I’ll go back and clarify what ‘original offence’ refers to. If to the FTF I’ll amend to not guilty although I’m not sure what to put in the text box for why. Although it may not require any reason for a NG plea.
If it’s the original speeding offence then I’ll also amend to it guilty??  and still not sure what to write for the reason why, if any is required.

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Hi and thanks for replying.
All I really know is that there’s one case number relating to two charges. On the call to HMCTS they said that the speeding offence was dropped. I assumed probably incorrectly that the  original offence was the speeding offence otherwise why word it as original offence. I’m so confused!
I’ll have to ring the STS back and see if I can amend the form.


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I think I may have made a mistake on the SD online! It asked I if I’m pleading guilty to the original offence. And gives a box to tick and a box for text. I checked the I am guilty box and put some text relating to pleading guilty to the original offence if the subsequent offence was quashed. Is this correct or should I have checked the not guilty box??? Now feeling really stupid and worried I’ve just pled guilty to another offence on top!! Thank you to all who have given their advice so far.

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Hi again
and apologies for delay in updates so understand if no one wants to comment! Only just managed to get through to SJS after no response from emails and calls not being connected.
Anyway, I was charged with two offences,  my original speeding offence has been withdrawn and found guilty of the FTP in my absence. SPS have sent me a link for an online Statutory declaration which I’m about to send off. I’ve filled it in to the best of my ability. The only real query is they ask how do you plead to the original offence. Am I right to answer that yes I’m guilty of the original offence on the proviso the FTP is set aside?
Thanks for anyone reading this and any further guidance.
Rich

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I’ll go back to hMCTS and ask for the case number for the FTF and see if I can get the papers for that which may show dual offences?
There aren’t any other outstanding offences I’m aware of (I went to my local police station last week and although they couldn’t give me any paperwork the officer said he’d checked all my details and there wasn’t anything else he could see) and I have 6 points, MS90 applied recently


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Hi Richard
Maybe I’ve not been particularly clear.
I’m the registered keeper of the car in question (or was as it’s just been sold). I’ve missed all correspondence on a NIP and any further notices and then, presumably as I’ve updated my address details recently on my driving licence, received correspondence in the form of a further steps notice for, as I understand it, the FTF only, including a £1024 fine. As I didn’t know the ins and outs I’ve chased information on the original speeding offence thinking that’s what I need to use for the statutory declaration. The SJNP and witness statement (from the speed camera operator) I requested relate to and mention only the NIP.
So I’m anticipating there’s two offences I’ve been unaware of and therefore another SJNP for that too that I’ve also missed?
The only possibility of someone else returning the NIP is the new owners of my previous family home - unlikely as I believe they have not been keeping any mail that may have arrived there.
I’m currently not working due to illness.
Does this make any more sense?

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Hi there
Yes I believe I was the driver and have requested evidence although I’m led to believe there’s only a photo of the rear of the car. And if, unlikely though it is, it turns out not to be me, I’ll just have to accept the current situation.
So that will be a large sum I’ll have to find on top of what I’ve already paid. Sheesh!

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Thank you so much. I can breathe a small sigh of relief. I’ll still anticipate up to six points and a large fine. And maybe claim back the original fine…I imagine I’m being a bit naive on that one!
Thanks again for your time and assistance.
Rich

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Hi Newjudge and thanks for the response. Apologies for the follow up.
So the SD is for the FTP only and I need to get the original case number for this offence to put on the form? I only have the case number of the speeding offence and an account number off the Further steps notice which is what I used to pay the FTP fine.
The form asks to briefly explain how I found out (about the FTP not the speeding offence, I presume). So I should just say ‘received further steps notice at new address’?
Once I attend court, I offer to plead guilty to the speeding on the proviso the FTP is expunged?
Sorry if I’m asking daft questions.
I would engage a solicitor to aid but have been quoted quite a bit and my circumstances don’t quite allow such an outlay at the moment.
Thanks again for any further advice.
Rich

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Hi Richard
So the SJPN is for speeding only.
The further steps letter which is the only correspondence I’ve receives related to the fine (and points) for the FTF although there’s no specific information presumably because this is a chasing letter for non payment.
Hope this helps.
Thanks again.
Rich

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