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Hi H C Andersen,

Thanks for the inforamtion.


I will double to check and see if i still have the discounted amount to pay as this looking not good.


Regards

OK thanks, i will wait for the NTO and update on here. Also in the pics shown by council they show a minimal contravention and the car is not blocking the dropped kerb for crossing from one side of Hoyle St to the other side. Will i have any chance off winning  at tribunal when hearing goes to them?

Thanks

Hi All,

I have received reply from Manchester city council about my appeal. As expected, they rejected my appeal stating the below.

"The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions
(Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022

Penalty Charge Notice Number: QM01638810
Date given: 01/08/2025 at 13:43
Place given: North Western Street (City Centre)
Vehicle registration: YA63OKK
Thank you for your enquiry, which we received on 5 August 2025.
You were given a PCN for parking adjacent to a dropped footway. A dropped footway is
where the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to facilitate easy access, including
assisting wheelchair users, and other pedestrians.
Dropped footways do not require signs or lines and any vehicle parking alongside a dropped
footway is liable to receive a PCN and; where appropriate, the vehicle may be removed
incurring further charges.
You stated that your vehicle was not parked next to the dropped footway and you were not
obstructing other road users and pedestrians. However I have reviewed the notes and
photographic evidence provided by the Civil Enforcement Officer (CEO) and I am satisfied
that your vehicle was parked adjacent to the dropped footway.
The restrictions around dropped footways exists because vehicles parked this way can get in
the way of pedestrians, especially wheelchair users, blind people or people with prams.
You also stated that a vehicle can park next to a dropped footway so long as it is no more
than 20 minutes. However this is incorrect as there are no grace periods given to vehicles
that are parked in contravention.
I have carefully considered your case and I am satisfied that your PCN was issued correctly,
and I have taken the decision not to cancel it.
To view images taken at the time your PCN was issued, please visit
www.manchester.gov.uk/parking

You have these choices:
1. The PCN will be reduced to £35.00 if it is paid within 14 days from the date this letter was
served.
2. If you do not pay the PCN within 14 days of this letter being served, the charge will
increase to £70.00.
3. If the PCN is not paid or successfully challenged, the Council may serve a Notice to Owner
(NtO) after 28 days of the PCN being served on the owner of the vehicle requiring payment of
the full PCN. The owner can then make representations to the Council and may appeal to an
independent adjudicator if those representations are rejected. The NtO will contain
instructions for doing this.
HOW TO PAY
- Online at www.manchester.gov.uk/parking and follow the links to Pay PCN.
- By telephone credit/debit card payments only. Use our automated payment line 0161 234
5006 (24 hours, seven days a week).Please have your vehicle details and PCN number
ready.
- In person at any PayPoint, you will need to take your PCN to allow the barcode to be
scanned.
Yours sincerely

Derrick Knight
Parking Services Officer
Parking Services"

Hi,

Driver parked the vehicle adjacent to footpath to pick up his friend from piccadilly station for 20 min and by the time driver came warden put a ticket.


Location of the vehicle parked - https://www.google.com/maps/place/Temperance+St,+Manchester/@53.4755791,-2.222778,3a,75y,304.98h,84.63t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAijAPajpU-WUpBK7YDak1Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.371556173709465%26panoid%3DAijAPajpU-WUpBK7YDak1Q%26yaw%3D304.9810976679632!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x487bb1996d5b50db:0xf28ac297f690470b!8m2!3d53.4740673!4d-2.2205808!16s%2Fg%2F1th23bvj?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDczMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Driver hasn made representation yet to council.

PCN - https://imgur.com/a/Ji8V4Nj


Can you please advice?

I'm going to PM you so we can arrange this.

Thank you appreciate it.

Quote from: gunnapr on April 18, 2025, 06:44:35 pm

i can ask him about witness statement but the only problem his business doesnt know that he is taking my stuff.

Well a wittiness statement from him is the bare minimum you would need. It's not exactly very likely that the business owners are going to be checking random tribunal decisions to check if any of the employees have given a statement.

Thanks,
Ok will he need to sign the document and post it to council? or i need to include this in my representation to the council. Also will at any stage required to attend the tribunal to give statement?

I can ask him and see id he is ok to give witness statement.

Regards

So did you pay the company to dispose of those items, and if so do you have a receipt?

No i didnt paid for this,  normally you have to pay so they come and collect the waste but i know the guy and he said he got a disposal van with stuff he is going to take it for disposal and said if i can bring the old crap so he will put them in together as the van got some space. so i drove over there and dropped my stuff in the van.


Regards

Thanks,

yes, im the addressee in this case.

Regarding delivery, its not like driver is a registered delivery guy like DHL, RM etc just dropping off some stuff the business on the same street brought.

Please let me know if you need more info. I think im running late to make representation with the council.


Thanks.