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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Wanstead, Redbridge Council, stopping in a yellow box junction
« on: June 17, 2025, 03:53:35 pm »
I appealed my PCN having been sent this for stopping on yellow box on 30 April and the box being removed w/c 12th May. Redbridge Council rejected because I 'was observed entering and stopping the a box junction ...........'
From a post on social media, it was advised to write to Cllr Paul Canal. He did take this up with Redbridge Council and just now this reply to his email has been received by me and others who appealed their PCN's due to the box being removed recently.
Thank you for your email to Cllr Blackman regarding the former yellow box junction on Wanstead High Street and the associated Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs).
As all members have been advised by the council’s legal officers, Members are specifically excluded by legislation from becoming involved in the consideration of individual PCNs, I am therefore responding to the points you have raised.
The yellow box junctions installed on Wanstead High Street were fully compliant with national traffic signage regulations. All PCNs issued at these locations were lawful and correctly enforced under the Traffic Management Act and the relevant regulations in force at the time.
The decision to remove the boxes was taken solely on public safety grounds. As I explained in response to your email of 29 April 2025 the location was already under review prior to that point following a request from Cllr Jo Blackman earlier this year for a road safety audit.
The yellow boxes were effective in improving traffic flow, particularly for vehicles exiting side roads onto Wanstead High Street. However, a small number of drivers had been observed engaging in erratic and unsafe behaviour near the pedestrian crossing — including abrupt braking and swerving — apparently in an attempt to avoid receiving a PCN. While this behaviour was not necessary (the Highway Code makes clear that stopping in a yellow box to allow a pedestrian to cross is not an offence), the risk it posed was significant enough to warrant precautionary action. The Council therefore made the responsible decision to remove the markings.
The decision to remove the markings does not affect the legality or validity of any PCNs issued while the boxes were in place. A change to traffic restrictions at a given time or location does not invalidate previous enforcement. There is therefore no legal basis for cancelling or refunding PCNs, whether paid or outstanding. Any concerns about specific tickets issued should follow the formal appeals process.
This Council is one of the worst imo.
From a post on social media, it was advised to write to Cllr Paul Canal. He did take this up with Redbridge Council and just now this reply to his email has been received by me and others who appealed their PCN's due to the box being removed recently.
Thank you for your email to Cllr Blackman regarding the former yellow box junction on Wanstead High Street and the associated Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs).
As all members have been advised by the council’s legal officers, Members are specifically excluded by legislation from becoming involved in the consideration of individual PCNs, I am therefore responding to the points you have raised.
The yellow box junctions installed on Wanstead High Street were fully compliant with national traffic signage regulations. All PCNs issued at these locations were lawful and correctly enforced under the Traffic Management Act and the relevant regulations in force at the time.
The decision to remove the boxes was taken solely on public safety grounds. As I explained in response to your email of 29 April 2025 the location was already under review prior to that point following a request from Cllr Jo Blackman earlier this year for a road safety audit.
The yellow boxes were effective in improving traffic flow, particularly for vehicles exiting side roads onto Wanstead High Street. However, a small number of drivers had been observed engaging in erratic and unsafe behaviour near the pedestrian crossing — including abrupt braking and swerving — apparently in an attempt to avoid receiving a PCN. While this behaviour was not necessary (the Highway Code makes clear that stopping in a yellow box to allow a pedestrian to cross is not an offence), the risk it posed was significant enough to warrant precautionary action. The Council therefore made the responsible decision to remove the markings.
The decision to remove the markings does not affect the legality or validity of any PCNs issued while the boxes were in place. A change to traffic restrictions at a given time or location does not invalidate previous enforcement. There is therefore no legal basis for cancelling or refunding PCNs, whether paid or outstanding. Any concerns about specific tickets issued should follow the formal appeals process.
This Council is one of the worst imo.